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January 4th, 2016, 04:16 AM
#71

Originally Posted by
stragglelake
So when the same liberals that banned pit bulls....
Legislation is not always the answer to our problems.
What do Liberals have to do with it ??? Almost every municipality across the board both in Canada and the US has banned pitbullls...there is no political affiliation. Can't blame the Liberals for everything you don't like in life.
Yes you need legislation, laws, to prosecute those that don't follow the rules..and you need rules because people are stupid and don't play well with others.
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January 4th, 2016 04:16 AM
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January 4th, 2016, 09:20 AM
#72

Originally Posted by
MikePal
What do Liberals have to do with it ??? Almost every municipality across the board both in Canada and the US has banned pitbullls...there is no political affiliation. Can't blame the Liberals for everything you don't like in life.
Yes you need legislation, laws, to prosecute those that don't follow the rules..and you need rules because people are stupid and don't play well with others.
Dalton mcguinty and attorney general Michael Bryant passed that law.
Yes the same Michael Bryant that killed a bike courier in a road rage incident.
In not sure why you mention that municipalities banned them when it was a provincial issue.
Obviously we need legislation for stupid people but knee jerk reactions to keep special interest groups happy does not make good legislation.
The law is poorly written. Hard to enforce and leaves out at least 20 more dogs that are bred for fighting.
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January 4th, 2016, 09:26 AM
#73

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
The pitbull ban is just another useless unenforcable piece of "feel-good" legislation. I see people walking them all over the place,all the time. I've spoken with folks and they all say "Oh,this is a cross with (enter ficticious breed here) so,it's OK." Meanwhile,the dog is acting aggressively. Dumb people,just simply dumb.
I was reading an article from 2012 I believe it was, and the City of Ottawa admittedly doesn't bother enforcing the ban because they say the DOLA covers it all, and it's not breed specific. That, and as you mentioned the resources needed to enforce such a thing would be astronomical.
I've seen many pits myself, but I I've never run into an aggressive one. I did meet a Rottie that put a bit of bit of a lump in my shorts once though.
BSL seems to be losing ground in the states and a lot of places have gotten rid of it since it's been ineffective.
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January 4th, 2016, 09:59 AM
#74

Originally Posted by
stragglelake
In not sure why you mention that municipalities banned them when it was a provincial issue.
I guess I should have added the word 'enforced' by municipalities..as in they won't issue kennel permits for breeding and local shelters won't 'adopt' out the PB variants of the dogs etc.
I don't consider the general public to be "special interest groups". The law makers responded to demands to protect the community from specific breeds proven to be the problem of public safety. The province responded, as they should.
Having the laws in place provide the authorities a way to quickly handle the problems when the surface, even if they aren't proactive in enforcing them, they still have the means to prosecute the offenders and remove the dogs when the laws are broken.
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January 4th, 2016, 10:04 AM
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January 4th, 2016, 10:14 AM
#76
You mean the Michael Bryant that defended himself from an attack by a nut job on a bike? If somebody outside my moving car tried to grab my steering wheel I would squeeze him off onto a post as well.
Last edited by fishermccann; January 4th, 2016 at 10:19 AM.
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January 4th, 2016, 10:14 AM
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I don't consider the general public to be "special interest groups". The law makers responded to demands to protect the community from specific breeds proven to be the problem of public safety. The province responded, as they should.
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The " general public " is not a big fan of hunting or firearms either.
Are you going to be just as understanding when changes are made to these laws ??
I'm really not for or against pit bulls.
I'm against living in a nanny state
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January 4th, 2016, 10:19 AM
#78

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
You mean the Michael Bryant that defended himself from an attack by a nut job on a bike?
Do you think the outcome of that trial would have been the same if you were driving that car ??
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January 4th, 2016, 10:23 AM
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January 4th, 2016, 10:24 AM
#80
I certainly hope so, most people would have done the same thing in those circumstances. Some would say we should have the right to shoot him as soon as he reached in to take control of the steering wheel.
Last edited by fishermccann; January 4th, 2016 at 10:30 AM.