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I am thinking, even when people are never going to agree on anything you can still have a level of respect for someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
It's like a T-shirt saw once.
It read " I can't understand your level of Stupidity, but I can respect your commitment to it."
We all will have different options, the key is to not take difference personally.
Why not BBD? Pray tell. Do people on here not recognize class when they see it? Or do they refuse to see it? No mater which of the political parties you favour, Michelle was one of the most intelligent, classiest first ladies , ever.
An assertion that could also be debated for upwards of 20 pages, depending on what lens one uses. Not in disagreement mind you....Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
This is very sad to watch.....My heart felt condolences to all involved. Wonder if the media will do the right thing and also include the unborn child as one of the dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0wx...ature=emb_logo
Really sad to watch. I saw it earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by huntervinni
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The CBC has a video on Facebook of a fella that made a nice memorial to the victims. He specifically made a small Maple leaf for the unborn child...very nicely doneQuote:
Originally Posted by huntervinni
http://https://www.facebook.com/watc...25964304734596
That quote was directed towards Trump and his campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Might be one of the worst political lies of all time.
Does going high mean setting up and framing an innocent man to spend the rest of his life in prison and any associate that they could trap along the way?
In all likelyhood, she knew Trump was being framed at the time she made that comment.
That would really make her a gem now wouldn't it.
Insiders say she may have a shot at becoming a President of the USA...Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
...."put that in your pipe and smoke it " :)
LOL yeah I know. That's just hot air to try and get their deflated balloon to rise.
Once Durham drops the hammer before the election, that'll taint anything that Obama has touched, no pun intended.
I guess Liberals like Trudeau don't follow that much. Trudeau did most of the mud slinging in the election. :)
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
GW why do you says things that can't be proven. That is only your opinion or show proof of that statement, from somewhere other than the rebel.
No kidding...the bizarre thing, he even went after Doug Ford....he stooped so low as to purposefully sling mud at a provincial Premier to try and scare voters into voting Liberal. It was like he was running for the Leadership of the provincial Liberals...HaHa...Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Apparently he studied Mr Harper's style during election campaign's and it worked out Ha,ha.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
an example ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
or was that just another ludicrous comment like you made earlier..which you didn't provide any substantiation for:
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Gut wrenching. Especially the part that had they known the shooter was still on the loose she wouldn't had left the house, then his chilling last texts to her. Here's a young woman with her whole life ahead of her on the road knowing she doesn't have adequate PPE, pregnant and yet willing to go on in order to help other people in her community. God Bless this family. There is a Go Fund Me page set up for Kristen Beaton. I think a great spot for some of that coffee money we've all saved the past month.Quote:
Originally Posted by huntervinni
If anyone has any question about Michelle Obama-please watch to full extent the movie-Fed Up.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Then add 1+1 together.
On the very last page of the movie-there is a list-watch very carefully who rejected to comment or give an interview on Youth Obesity Issues in the USA -linked to Sugar Lobby in the USA. You will have the whole picture.
No other words are needed.
Option two..Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Not making anything up. Actually Trudeau was slinging mud first .
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
[QUOTE=MikePal;1111011]an example ???
That's easy Justin Trudeau is now your Prime Minister. LOL
[QUOTE=Gilroy;1111029]Yes he is PM. One thing he's not is a leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
[QUOTE=canadaman30;1111035]I forgot you have your own leader Andrew Scheer,love his performance at the end of this video.I like my leadership from the Hastings CountyQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Lads.
https://globalnews.ca/video/6866371/...xpel-local-mp/
[QUOTE=canadaman30;1111035]I'm not even sure he is conscious most of the time he is talking .... it is easy to see that he is just a puppet someone else has smiling, dancing and making up words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
But with this tragedy we can guarantee the lies and fear mongering from Billie and Justlied will go on and on... so let's hear from someone that actually cares about reality and Canadians in the CCFR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzLzjWmYn-A
Self defence was impossible since Rod's absolutely right that the uniform and the car made the killing much easier and safer for the killer since the RCMP only sent a stupid twitter message while US citizens in that area apparently got a warning on their phones. Twitter only, that is almost criminal incompetence right there and possibly cost lives.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/u-s-ci...page-1.4907139
The facts seem to be he wasn't allowed to have firearms, had illegal ones and since he had the uniform and illegal firearms there is the probably had seriously planned it for awhile. The facts like where he got them (seems some were from the US), the type etc. will take time, the Liberal's will lie, the media will spin for the ideologues agenda and on it will go.... the Crazy Doctors et al are already calling for bans on all firearms. Never let a tragedy go by without taking away freedoms and rights.... the Liberal's are back and will try to spin it for sure. Truth doesn't change, but it doesn't always win too and the Liberal's are good at repeating things loud and often.
[QUOTE=Gilroy;1111039]Tam lied over and over about the Wuhan Pneumonia and how it spread, masks etc. and there is the deal with the 16 tons of medical gear....Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
So you like people that lie and support liars... sad.... but there are always supporters and accomplices out there... I mean the tanks didn't drive over the students by themselves in Tianamin and the Chinese doctors that tried to warn people, other than the one that died, have still not reappeared apparently. Fox only sites one here but according to a Chinese friend of mine there were 6.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/chines...id-19-vanishes
and the two Michaels are celebrating 500 days with no trial etc. in China since we arrested the Huawai exec.
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other...ys/ar-BB1379Sj
So remember this guys view on governments....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHUhfmlzXk
... and our idiots in charge still talk about using a Chinese company for Canada's 5G.... PM PUPPET Silly Socks!
[QUOTE=Gilroy;1111039]What's wrong truth hurts? She should be tossed along with the WHO, that helped China keep the truth from getting out. The reason we are in this situation is because of people like her and the WHO and communist China.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
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Originally Posted by MikePal
Look like we were right....I saw an RCMP briefing this morning that said of the guns he used, all but one came from the US.
That doesn't fit Trudeau's agenda and why he's backed off using it as an example to tighten Gun Control measures.
This actually is a good example to support what has always been said..the problem is illegal gun crossing the border.
Many guns are smuggled in through Indian reserves in Quebec. Sock boy will never touch or stop that.
[QUOTE=canadaman30;1111054]Dr. Tam's conduct and advice was not radically different from other public health officials in Canada and elsewhere. You can bet if she were a pretty white woman the mouth-breathers and yahoos would not be attacking her professionalism or her loyalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
What do her looks have to do with anything?Incompetence isn’t based on looks. Many Canadians would lick Tru-dough clean. Doesn’t make much sense does it?
If she was a pretty white woman she would likely be attacked even more.
[QUOTE=Badenoch;1111081]Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
[QUOTE=Badenoch;1111081]I guess you don’t remember “Climate Barbie”??? Like I said idiots come in every shape & color. Both these people have many degrees and accreditations. People aren’t saying they aren’t qualified. They just chose to politicize a deadly pandemic and many died alone in hospital beds because of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
No one questioned McKenna's loyalty to the nation or accused her of working on behalf of foreign interests. Canada's response to COVID-19 while not perfect is outperforming many other nations.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
Unless of course the Canadian sourced gun did all the damage?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
It doesn't matter....they've said he did NOT have a PAL or RPAL...so he was illegally in possession of a gun, which doesn't fall within the tighter 'Gun Control' measures of Bill C-71.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
They won’t release the facts if it hurts their agenda. Trudough is a grave dancer as is Wendy Kookier.
Since gun controls still allowed a madman to massacre innocent people they will move to disarm all the licensed gun owners. At which point only criminals will have guns. Then the budget will balance itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Sad to say but there is nothing that 'tighter gun controls' could have done to prevent that massacre - nothing. But that will not stop Billy Blair from using that as a soap box.
Same old echo chamber guys. We are mostly preaching to each other and the only debates are with other members who are mostly participating for their own entertainment.
If every gun owner cared enough to keep their firearms, we’d have a well-funded advocacy group to represent our interests.
Before I get jumped on, this does not mean I am pushing for an NRA style of politics here. They’ve gone too far. But I am suggesting that a well-funded group with wide ranging membership across Canada would do wonders for us.
CCFR is definitely the organization to join if that's your intention. CSSA is good,too. They're the only ones with a common sense approach. The rest are more "regional" than national.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
I'm tending to agree...their recent work to uncover the lies and incompetence of Bill Blair alone are worthy of using them as our spokesman. Your right they seem to be more National in their approach...which is what we need being only 5 million strong, spread from coast to coast.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
I'm only a member of the OFAH but I have always wondered why all the various organizations don't pool their money and resources to fight the government on firearms issues.
The half dozen of you that are on here daily pushing for gun right's can form your own wee group and bash on for the rights of the weekend warriors and their Ar 15,s. In the meantime I will just continue hunting with the same guns I have used for the past 40 years undeterred by the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Because guns and gun's and gun owners have been used as pawns by the politicians.I stopped supporting the OFAH a number of years ago because they would only support Conservatives even although those very Conservatives betrayed the hunting and northern communities byQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
cancelling the spring bear hunt.Pretty simple really.
Again I ask you please tell what is so bad about the AR15. It shoots a 223 no different then the rugger ranch rifle and no more powerful. In fact you can put a military stock on the rugger ranch rifle and to the public you now have a military rifle.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
So you support Liberals who pretty much state they do not like gun owners. Wow that is really weird.
By the way your comment has nothing to do with my question.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
I guess you hit it right on the nail yourself "to the public you now have a military rifle" who are the public now in Canada?Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
GW your a Canadian born man and you perceive the world through that lens, but what about the others voters in Canada, how many came here seeking refuge from War torn countries all over the World. I don't need to mention them and we don't but could go back to the end of the second world war.Vietnam,Iran,Syria,Afghanistan,Iraq, Egypt,Somalia,Lebanon, then add to that countries under the gun of dictators all
over Africa.
These voters memories are of gang's armed with military style weapon's now add to that the victim's families of shootings,domestic violence
the female victim,s of which don't care what type of gun was used it was a gun and women consist of 52% of the vote.
Now the rest of the general public see almost weekly reports of mass shootings right next door in the USA, where assault type weapon's are used,how do you think they are voting,well probably to protect their kids come hell or high water.So basically its a political football.
If I am asked tomorrow to give up my semi auto hunting rifle in order to protect my fellow Canadians I have no problem.
Just pointing out you were betrayed by the very party you voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I've been a computer programmer for 20 years now and 90% of the people I have worked with are not white.
In fact all the programmers where I currently work are either Chinese, Vietnamese, Russian, Indian, Pakistani.
Actually I have never met a non white that was against firearms not one out of about 500 people I have worked with. Would it not be better to teach each people that putting on a different stock does not make a firearm super powerful. Even your comment makes it sound like you think a firearm becomes super powerful if it has a military stock. It's a stock nothing more. If I take a Remington 870 and put a AR15 stock on it (Yes they make them) does it all of a sudden become more powerful? YES OR NO
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Much less so than the Liberals who do not hide the fact they would like to band guns 100%, yet you support them. Which is why I always wonder if you are anti gun and anti hunting.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
"If I take a Remington 870 and put a AR15 stock on it (Yes they make them) does it all of a sudden become more powerful? YES OR NO"
Only you seem to think so as you keep on harping on about it. LOL
I guess you will know the answer to that when you come up to the cabin and we can play around with some guns,maybe a little skeet shooting and some bass fishing this summer.This is not your first invitation GW. It will not be the last even although you belong to the DARK SIDE. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
That's correct Gilroy, those people left dictatorships to come here to a free country. They came here because they feel it's far safer and yes only the bad people had guns where they lived, I'm fully aware, those types are my neighbors. One things for sure in a dictatorship they take away your guns that's why all those people came here to live in a free country,and it's safe because we have guns. Taking away gun rights is one step closer to Dictatorship..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well I am of the opposite view you don't flee from a country torn apart to go to another country where you again see gun violence on a daily basis.You actually want something better,so they vote for a government that is not keen on the proliferation of arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Where the police for instance in the USA are armed to the teeth,have to drive around in ex military armored vehicles to perform drug raids and everybody and their uncle looks like a swat team member.No thanks they say and of course vote liberal.Pretty much common sense.
You also wont see people owning guns in a country run by dictatorship. It's really simple to see the truth, take away guns from the good people, who is left with the guns and the rules. Certainly not good people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
It's also not the good people in free countries that use guns for crime, it's bad people. TRUTH
Yup, I joined CCFR last spring and just renewed.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
......and there’s the response I expected. It’s a slippery slope when someone says you don’t NEED that semi-auto. Next round will be you don’t NEED that pump shotgun. Police use those....it can be considered an ASSAULT weapon !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
So you’d give up your firearms rights because the very presence of firearms might bring back negative memories for a new Canadian ? A while back I heard someone on the radio talking about how air shows with military jets should be cancelled with the same sort of logic. I think that’s ridiculous; this is one area that Trump is right on the money, the left-infected Western democracies are too easily convinced to discard their identities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
......and common sense along with common decency with "political correctness".Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Here is one.
What happens when the gun ban dont work. ???
We push for more gun bans ?? Firearms kill and there is blood on the streets. One at a time till they are all gone .
It's not like we are living in Mexico where machine gun armed cartel are give out thousands of aid packages to the people of Mexico.
We are pretty safe the way they are in Canada, safe enough we we dont need the bubble wrapp any tighter than it already is.
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Rest assured.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Right now isn't the time to leverage any of this to support pro-gun advocacy.
It will be however be summarized, and analysis done. It will be a cornerstone of any pro-firearms argument taking place in the HOC or other debate going forward, by all groups, including the NFA, CSSA, CCFR, OFAH etc.
Timing is everything. Now is not it.
If that premise was accurate,how do you explain the fact that America has the highest immigration in the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
yea..another nonsensical comment from GilroyQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Poppycock!!Quote:
"Well I am of the opposite view you don't flee from a country torn apart to go to another country where you again see gun violence on a daily basis.You actually want something better.
....the areas in any city with the highest violent crime rates are ones that are inundated with immigrants "looking for a better life". Just take a look at the EU countries..whole sections of major cities with areas cops won't even go into due to the violence perpetrated by immigrants gangs.
Even here in Ottawa....the area around South Keys is racked with violence and it's gang warfare....almost exclusively made up of immigrants.
Oh I agree with you fully that this is not the time for a big push on firearms rights. I was leaning toward the idea that we should always have a stronger voice and not just in response to certain events. Call it a Canadian-version of the NRA with more moderate people at the helm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
Everybody is a good guy until they go on a rampage,like we see daily in the USA and now even here.Some good guys kill their wife's in domestic disputes.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Its not a slippery slope its simply society evolving for the betterment of the majority.Great Britain has had gun control for years,you very seldom witness events there like the mass shootings seen in the USA and Canada.New Zealand and Australia are just a few years ahead of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
I am saying that I am not selfish, if Canadians decide they feel safer without my having a semi auto gun then so be it,we live in a democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
I don't think you can mention Trump and logic of any kind,he just advised us to inject ourselves with maybe bleach or maybe Lysol,OK maybe
UV light should be used . Do you want to borrow my tin foil hat. LOL
Then I challenge you to give up all your guns this week.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Pretty sure some folks in NS don't feel so safe right now in Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
The guns bans were promised back last October in an election platform, no hiding it,right up front.Vote for me or not.
Most of the western Provinces voted in a block against the Liberals but did not carry the day based on this as a big issue.
No point trying to turn back the clock on this issue, a promises was made and it will probably be kept especially in light of this mass shooting.
BTW The leader in waiting for the Conservative Throne Peter Mac Kay is from Nova Scotia, he must be like a cat on a hot tin roof trying to figure out how he will oppose this gun control issue when he hits the Commons. LOL
Pretty hard to explain right now as they have a Dictator in charge down there by the name of Donald Trump.Oh but wait he has pretty well closed up the whole country to immigration,building that big wall,trying to exclude almost all immigration.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Mikepal "Poppycock!!
....the areas in any city with the highest violent crime rates are ones that are inundated with immigrants "looking for a better life". Just take a look at the EU countries..whole sections of major cities with areas cops won't even go into due to the violence perpetrated by immigrants gangs."
More right wing fake news stories.
Not planning on knocking of the wife this week, she just made a big mess of meatball's and chili are you kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
It is also quite possible to hunt and target shoot in the UK, New Zealand and Australia even though they have banned certain types of guns. In the UK you can even shoot guns that are banned in Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
There's no way anyone can call him a dictator. What he is can't be printed here without getting suspended. All the folks who work for him have found a way to work "around" him to get the job done in spite of his ridiculousness.....much to their credit,of course. It's much the same as we deal with PM Silly Socks. If it wasn't for smart people around him and smart people in the back room (OK,at least,for the most part) this country would be screwed much much worse than it is,now,despite everyone's best intentions. Round and round she goes,where she stops nobody knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Since the Liberals took office this country was and still is being run by Gerald Butts and orchestrated by Katie Telford. Neither of them are elected officials. The village idiot is the nothing more than a talking head...reminiscent of Charlie McCarthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Except Charlie was a whole lot smarter !!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Could be worse lad,s Andrew the failed KOC insurance salesman could be in charge of the Country. Nothing like a party leader who has never
actually held a real job in the real world.But give the man credit he did manage to get all his kid's private education paid from the common folk's who contributed to the party's coffers.I guess he felt entitled.
Like Trudeau you mean who never had a real job in life failed teacher only ever worked as a bouncer has no clue how the average person lives and has 2 Nanny's for his kids while a few years earlier claiming he didn't need stuff like that.
Did you forget that?
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
I will agree they are on edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
But are they afraid of a gun a madman or any noise for that matter right now?
What are they really fearful about? It cant be just an object like a gun in a safe .
Speaking about guns or the madman's name what would send chivers up their spines faster? I bet it would be his name. Or the fact it happened before a gun .
Really what is there to be afraid about? It's over the man is dead just like many others. They are shook up for sure, but are they really afraid of the gun.?
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No GW I don't ever forget I just keep the punches coming until we knock them out.In case you forgot I will post you the u tube video of JustinQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
beating up the lady assaulting Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau. Who in sad defeat had to cut his hair and wear a LIBERAL shirt for a full week.What was Mr Brazeau's occupation "BOUNCER" apparently not a very good one. LOL Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBThlIGUHAI
Should be interesting for Peter Mac Kay to deal with and the backroom Conservative strategists.If he opposes more gun control measures he might suffer a political backlash across the country and more especially in Nova Scotia.If he criticizes the RCMP response or actions same problem for him.I kinda think some of guys guys are going to get sold down the river.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
I actually I have quite a bit of family in NS and not one feels afraid. I highly doubt that the people in NS are on Edge.
Why would he recieve backlash over it when gun control or a ban would have nothing to do with subject or crime on hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Just like how " they and yourselves " always mention and refer back to the danforth shooting. How would a gun ban have stopped the situation from happening?.
It wouldn't plane and simple....
Unfortunately these things happen and tougher laws would not of stopped them from happening.
Just like the other majority of mass killings in Canada. Simply a gun ban would have not stopped most of them from happening. Nor was a firearm destined to be banned USED in the majority of them, so a ban would not stop most of the from happening.
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The politicians play political football with this and other issue's and gun owners oblige them every election in the same way as folks come on this forum and play the same games.Probably not going to end any time soon.I am happy just hunting and having the same guns I had for the past 40 years,its all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
BTW Good thread .
Trudeau........bouncer........really?? Wow that definitely fills out his CV - drama teacher, whitewater instructor, camp counselor and now a bouncer. That changes everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Well we have little choice to admit that appointing Senator Brazeau was not one of Harper’s highest achievements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Hmmm, What about the Kokanee grope Trudeau. Pretty bad when the Prime Minister felt up some reporter.
Would you have approved of that?
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Depends on how many beer I've had,you got to remember that Kokanee beer is pretty strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
So now to dispel your FAKE NEWS ABOVE the alleged incident from TWO DECADES AGO before he was even an MP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeQoo4tGvl0
Shame on you Greatwhite for defaming our beloved Prime Minister.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
In all seriousness do you applaud Trudeau for sexually assaulting a women. If you beat around the bush I will assume you applaud him.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
I guess you did not look and listen to the news report in the link I sent you.There was no sexual assault or even an assault.It was alleged he brushed up against the reporter,she did not want to complain and wanted to end the matter.In contrast of course to the Conservative Senator who was charged with sexual assault and plead guilty to assault in order to avoid taking the stand under oath.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Next FAKE NEWS STORY COMING SHORTLY FROM Greatwhite........
What about the reason why Trudeau quit the private school in BC and had a 17 year old sign an NDA, a lot of chatter about abuse there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
First I have never heard about this but I am sure you will send the link's to this story for us to have a peek at. I cannot comment on the story as you have not sent us anything but as a general comment I think in today's society and with the lack of moral's generally its very easy to make false allegations against a "high profile" individual in the hopes of making a quick buck,we see it all the time with claims against football players,basketball players,movie stars.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Not quite true.
Trudeau claims it was a mistake, the woman in question in a news report said it was not, but did not wanted to move on in life.
Trudeau destroyed the careers of several people for the exact same thing, but wasn't man enough to step down. Anyone supporting him sees Sexual assault to be OK and I stand by that.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
On the advice of a lawyer I'm sure...an NDA is a serious threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Yup ..he spends $millions in donations to the school and to the girls family to keep it quiet.
I don't think Sophia was to impressed when it hit the news...she was conspicuously absent from his side for a long time after.
You need to get your nose out of the Liberal friendly media once in awhile Gilroy, they don't report or print news that will embarrass their benefactor....or should I say their 'Sugar Daddy' HaHa..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Very telling how you call it fake news just because you didn't see it on the CBC...your cognitive dissonance is showing again. HaHa...
You will have to try and break your bad habit of putting your thoughts into other people's mouths.Nobody on this forum has indicated they agree with sexual assault being OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
You have failed to even post anything about this allegation, so basically its fake news until you post a verifiable link.
So your suggesting that the Liberal friendly media as you put it has the ability to deep six all these stories and allegations.Talk about being paranoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Now I know Michael that you love attention its obvious from your 21,607 posts, but you really need to give us a little more content.If you are making these claims you should really post a few credible links.Right now your posts are just more of the many one or two line trolling posts you accuse so many of posting.Basically your posts are full of hot air and so are you.
Ahh come on Gilly...put me back in your ignore list...we both know it's a waste of your time try to play in the sand box with me, you're not up to the challenge and never have been.. HaHa..
But I will say this..three of us are aware of the issue, it was wildly known, and open discussed at the time. Because you failed to hear about it, or care to keep up with the discussions at the time only make you ignorant of the facts. ..doesn't make it fake news..
Your on the ignore list but for my own entertainment I give you enough rope and watch your trolling post count continue.So the three of you who are aware of the issue can continue with your tin foil hat's on and the rest of us reading will await proof of what you allege.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Here is an interview with the child's father.
https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/10...first-thought/
According to the Sun there may be more.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...th-and-trudeau
There will still be those that will not believe it, and we all know who that will be !Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
And back on topic......
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...iday-1.5549969
Victims have not even been laid to rest and the Liberals are moving ahead with this........unbelievalbe.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
I read the list is "hush hush" becasue they fear a run on those guns being bought up before the ban can be enacted.Quote:
CBC has not been able to confirm which models are on Blair's list or when these changes would be implemented.
This will be interesting.....I can't imagine it will take the scrutiny of logic :)Quote:
The RCMP confirmed Tuesday that at least one of the firearms used in the Nova Scotia shooting could be described as an "assault-style" firearm. The Firearms Act does not currently classify firearms as "military-style" — that term would have to be defined in the new regulations.
Hear hear !!Quote:
"No aspect of this unthinkable tragedy bears any connection to firearm regulations in Canada. Thus, the implied connection is purely political," he said.
Might the “assault weapon” in question be the officer’s carbine that was obtained after she was shot ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Yes the victim's of this gun violence are being laid to rest and an election promises made over 6 months ago being kept.Quote:
Originally Posted by huntervinni
Gun violence that would not have been stopped by this ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The FAKE NEWS SITES ARE EASY TO FIND, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._news_websitesQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
The Buffalo Chronicle is right there front and center,if you don' like this source there a dozens of other's sources on the internet saying its a fake news site.The right wing Toronto Sun makes no mention of allegation we are speaking of.
Considering you do not know what the ban is yet, this might be premature thinking.But I am pretty sure this incident was caused by gun violence.We cannot call it "people violence" he did not strangle the victim's to death he shot them,right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
https://www.canadalandshow.com/the-b...-not-reliable/Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
He was not a party to the $2.25 million mutual non-disclosure non-disparagement agreement that she signed, in exchange for her continued silence, on the Wednesday evening of October 9th
[COLOR=#000000]“There was a ‘small settlement’ at the time,” he says, but declined to elaborate.
Even the not so bright on here should be able to figure out at least a year should be mentioned in a story, how do you go from a 2.25million non-disparagement agreement to "There was a "small settlement" and we do not know who said that?
FAKE NEWS CIRCULATED BY THE "NOT SO BRIGHT"
The author of that tripe is a CBC employee...(zero credibility)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://www.cbc.ca/mediacentre/bio/justin-ling
It'll be interesting to see how well this all goes, they keep using the comparisons to the tough Gun laws in NZ and Australia...both political knee jerk actions. The forced bans and buybacks are a dismal failure, as they are largely unenforceable.
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Once again, responding to a horrendous crime by inflicting knee-jerk, authoritarian restrictions on innocent people proves to be an ineffective means of convincing people to obey. Specifically, New Zealand's government—which also stepped up censorship and domestic surveillance after bloody attacks on two Christchurch mosques earlier this year—is running into stiff resistance to new gun rules from firearms owners who are slow to surrender now-prohibited weapons and will probably never turn them in.
Officials should have seen it coming.
"Police are anticipating a number of people with banned firearms in their possession won't surrender them," Stuff reported at the end of May, based on internal government documents.
As of last week, only around 700 weapons had been turned over. There are an estimated 1.5 million guns—with an unknown number subject to the new prohibition on semiautomatic firearms—in the country overall.
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"In Australia it is estimated that only about 20% of all banned self-loading rifles have been given up to the authorities," wrote Franz Csaszar, professor of criminology at the University of Vienna, after Australia's 1996 compensated confiscation of firearms following a mass murder in Port Arthur, Tasmania. Csaszar put the number of illegally retained arms in Australia at between two and five million.
"Many members of the community still possess grey-market firearms because they did not surrender these during the 1996–97 gun buyback," the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission conceded in a 2016 report. "The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission continues to conservatively estimate that there are more than 260,000 firearms in the illicit firearms market."
The shooter was already banned from owning guns from his past. How good did that work at stopping him?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
all of the allegations of sexual assault made by fake news chanel's and right wing nutter's days prior to an election, which of course the right wingers lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepal
The point is they can ban all the guns they want but the criminals will still have and continue to get guns. They do not follow the laws so a gun ban only affects legal owners. They need to have mandatory jail time if caught with a illegal firearm. Like 10-20 years then they might think twice but instead some get out of jail within 24hrs of being caught with illegal firearmsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
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I guess your advocating for gun owners to break the law if new laws come into effect.Pretty sure law breaking posts are against the Forum rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Yes he was a criminal who committed another criminal act,we will always have criminals in our midst,but the government's job is to try to the best of its ability to minimize harm to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Thank goodness we have a fantastic Prime Minister that is getting the job done as apposed to an opposition Conservative party in complete disarray,with a gutless leader. They cannot even get their act together to choose a new leader and the one they have apparently chosen will be effectively neutered on this gun issue because if he opposes it will get run over by the folk's in Nova Scotia and across the country. LOL
It was the law....but the Liberals removed it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashes1
But they can waste large amounts of money on unnecessary gun buy back programs...Quote:
The Supreme Court of Canada dealt the Harper government's tough-on-crime agenda a serious blow Tuesday by striking down a law requiring mandatory minimum sentences for crimes involving prohibited guns.
Justice Minister Peter MacKay said in a statement that the government will review the decision to determine "next steps towards protecting Canadians from gun crime and ensuring that our laws remain responsive."
"Our government will continue to be tough on those who commit serious crimes and endanger our communities," the minister added.
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said there is a place for mandatory minimums in certain situations, noting that past Liberal governments have introduced them for "extreme crimes."
"But I think the over-use of them that the Supreme Court has highlighted, by this Conservative government, isn't necessarily doing a service to Canadians, both by not necessarily keeping us that much safer and also wasting large amount of taxpayers dollars on unnecessary court challenges," he told reporters in Oakville.
Yes he was a criminal who committed another criminal act,we will always have criminals in our midst,but the government's job is to try to the best of its ability to minimize harm to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashes1
They have tried mandatory jail terms in the USA and the three strikes and your out policy.They ended up with the biggest jail population basically in the western world and costing the taxpayer,s billions of dollars.
The Americans are now reversing that policy as it was a dismal failure.Kinda like their gun laws are a dismal failure with mass shootings just about every week.
You mean like putting illegal gun owners in jail ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Mikepal has posted the followingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ashes1
"Justice Minister Peter MacKay said in a statement that the government will review the decision to determine "next steps towards protecting Canadians from gun crime and ensuring that our laws remain responsive."
Great to know that if he ever get's the Prime Minister's job he will be there to protect the citizens of Canada and especially the people of his home Province Nova Scotia in light of the worse Canadian mass shooting.hear,hear
Yes Michael illegal gun owners do go to jail.Now go back to your room for a nap.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Nice dodge on the truth of how much safer the public was considering the shooter was already banned from guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
If you think Trudeau is a fantastic PM, that explains enough
Not so in the big smoke. How long of sentences are gangsters given for illegal possession. Many get nothing. It's the liberal way of feeling sorry for thugsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
You mean like putting illegal gun owners in jail ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Yet your beloved Liberals removed a Law that would do just that..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
It was a good deterrent for them to know they were going to get a 3 yr minimum sentence.
Mikepal once again writes
"But they can waste large amounts of money on unnecessary gun buy back programs..."
Yes Michael the gun owners are happy to take the government money from the, many on here boasting they did well from the deal and went out and got new guns,they did not refuse the cash,did they? Sounds like a win ,win situation,everybody is happy,win the next election.
I have also noted the fiscally Conservative folks no longer lambast the Liberals for the billions of dollars being spent at this time,they all managed to get to the trough at the same time.
How convenient to try and keep that promise at a time when the worst rampage in Canadian history just took place. I bet the liberals are dancing on graves as we speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
He also burned them alive but lets not talk about that......no its only ever the guns fault. If your friend Billy liar is the cop you propose he is then why doesn't he talk about stopping guns coming in from the USA? Maybe you should sit him down with a bottle of scotch and discuss how they can do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well Judges are appointed by governments of the day,this would suggest that you believe there have been no Conservative appointed Judges in the last couple of decades.I think we can gong you on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Most cases are dealt with by a plea bargain worked out by the defense and Crown Attorney way before a Judge gets to say anything.So now I guess your next allegation is that all Crown Attorney's are Liberal.
If your refereeing to the GTA buyback..different kettle of fish, and another dismal failure that cost the GTA money they could have used elewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
So get back to your musing that we would be better protect if illegal gun owners went to jail...why are you supporting a party that did the exact opposite ?
Apparently it was not a good deterrent as gun crime simply kept escalating, are you not the same guy that say's laws do not stop criminals.You really need to make up your mind on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Bill knows that the measures he's about to back will do nothing, the Police chiefs across the country have told him so and won't support the measures that are going to be implemented. Talking with the CCFR on video, he was red faced embarrassed that he was caught in a lie about the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by huntervinni
But you support it yourself....why are you talking out of both side of your face..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The Liberals themselves said it was becasue it cost to much...not that it was ineffective..the stats don't support that argument.
I do not drink Scotch and I have no idea if Minister Blair does,but I suspect he does not from past observations.There are scores of arrest'sQuote:
Originally Posted by huntervinni
made at the border every year for illegal guns coming into Canada.But its the largest undefended border basically in the World with a free flow of good's ( Mulroney Free Trade Agreement) .The NRA and their supporters,gun manufacturer's are all in to make money,they care little about death's caused either here or America .
[QUOTE=MikePal
So get back to your musing that we would be better protect if illegal gun owners went to jail...why are you supporting a party that did the exact opposite ?[/QUOTE]
That's an easy one just read you own post s-----d.
[COLOR=#000000]But I think the over-use of them that the Supreme Court has highlighted, by this Conservative government, isn't necessarily doing a service to Canadians, both by not necessarily keeping us that much safer and also wasting large amount of taxpayers dollars on unnecessary court challenges," he told reporters in Oakville.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well Gilroy...you keep skirting the question in true form of a Liberal ...Quote:
Are you now asserting that LEGAL gun owners are the problem with illegal gun traffic.??
Why won't you answer it..WE would like to know ??
If that's how you think the world should work that's great . False lies and political games then so be it . The truth is it will never change the violence. .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
But if that's how you think we should live in a political game of lies and fake news it's no wonder we cant trust anyone.
Let's stop the gun violence by banning the guns used the least in gun violence. That will sure solve alot wont it. The doctors are fed up from the shootings in Toronto how does this ban exactly help the doctors of Toronto? When the majority of shootings happen with a hand gun.
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But you said they should go to jail, but your overlords skuttled the very law that was doing that...and they admit it was just becasue it cost money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Show us the stats, show us the years when gun crime was reduced as you allege and then show us how money was saved in Court challenges all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Mandatory sentences would also be given to folk,s that you might consider a pretty law abiding citizen up until they pulled the trigger.
Then rejected the defence’s assertion that Forcillo should not be subjected to the mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison for the attempted murder conviction. But he also said the Crown’s request that the officer spend between eight to 10 years behind bars was “unreasonable
Read what I typed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
..and....??? (I'm sure if it was your family member that was killed in the cross fire you'd be happy with that )
No lets go back...I think a lot of people on the Forum would like to know your answerQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Are you now your asserting that LEGAL gun owners are the problem with illegal gun traffic.??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
[QUOTE=fishfood;1111810]If that's how you think the world should work that's great . False lies and political games then so be it . The truth is it will never change the violence. .
But if that's how you think we should live in a political game of lies and fake news it's no wonder we cant trust anyone."
I would say that you cannot trust anyone,its just a choice of who you trust more than the other.
Spring bear hunt cancelled in Ontario by Conservatives based on no science got passed because the hunters had backed the Conservatives and got themselves trapped in that relationship.
Conservatives scrapped the long gun registry upsetting the population, result Liberals voted right back into power.
Worse shooting disaster happen's in Canada, citizen's shot, RCMP officer shot, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT CANADIANS ARE GOING TO NOW SUPPORT LESS GUN CONTROL. Does not matter if its rural gun violence (Nova Scotia) or urban gun violence Danforth shooting.
The Liberals were on this,ahead of the curve,made an election promises 6 months ago and are sitting pretty good right now.
Not a PEEP out of the Conservative Party in Parliament or on the main stream news about this incident ........wonder why?
Why are you dodging the question Gilroy...?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
edit add: It's like question period...the Liberals are asked a question and all they do is repeat a memorized 'speaking point'...HaHa..
Take your time Gilly...as much as I enjoy this, I have things to do..but WE do expect a direct answer to the question..
Guess what the trigger didn't pull itself and point it at others did it ? Not the man behind it the man in control of it, the man without a gun license did it . Just because a firearm was used it's not the firearms fault the fault would lie on the trigger man. Yes it was it was the man's fault not the guns .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
People violence haha what about the controlled substance why is it a controlled substance who controls it the government? Or the Columbian cartel ? Haha people violence a gun was used he purchased them illegally so in reality how would a ban of stopped it. Especially if they came from the USA? Even it one of the firearms came from Canada destined to be banned how would it of changed the outcome? He still would of illegally sourced out weapons.
A mother stabbed her 2 children in montreal the other day 1 dead 1 alive . Guess it was the knife's fault and not the mothers. The mother wouldn't do that would she try and kill her own young kids. come on gilroy we know your smarter than this.
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Are you now your asserting that LEGAL gun owners are the problem with illegal gun traffic.??[/QUOTE]
The NRA and their supporters,gun manufacturer's are all in to make money,they care little about death's caused either here or America .
I know you have a problem Mike but you need to get a grip and maybe have someone help you read over your posts.
Wrong. The incident was caused a deranged individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Strange how this mass shooting was able to happen considering the current ban on murder and mass shootings.
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If Trudeau didn't reverse the mandatory sentencing for thugs no judges would be to blame. Instead our liberals felt it was unfair and we need to feel sorry for thugs and gangsters so sentencing is minimal to nothing. And our liberal voters still can't grasp as to why people are being shot daily-weekly in the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Typical liberal response is, its thugs shooting thugs. One less thug doesn't effect normal law abiding people. Yet in the same breath endorsing a gun ban because of continued gun violence in the populated areas.
Funny how all the gangsters and thugs are essentially banned from owning guns because none of them have a license to own or purchase. Should give the public some perspective as to how effective a gun ban will be...lmao
The NRA and their supporters,gun manufacturer's are all in to make money,they care little about death's caused either here or America .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
I know you have a problem Mike but you need to get a grip and maybe have someone help you read over your posts.[/QUOTE]
Guess what they are designed to be used on targets or for fun. Not to go and kill people.
Your shot gun was designed to hunt not saw off the barrel and take to it school in a school bag. Not to kill people with but it has been done . .
All firearms have killed. Soo we should ban all firearms right ? They all kill all firearms kill people.
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fishfood
A mother stabbed her 2 children in montreal the other day 1 dead 1 alive . Guess it was the knife's fault and not the mothers. The mother wouldn't do that would she try and kill her own young kids. come on gilroy we know your smarter than this.
Government's are tasked with protecting their citizen's and will do so. Firearm control is within the mandate of the Federal Government.
Is it mental illness that caused the mother to stab her children,probably,was it mental illness that caused the NS shooter to go on a rampage,probably. Can the Federal government stop mentally ill person's killing and wounding other people,no. Can they try and prevent
mentally ill person's acquiring ,yes and they will.Will they try and stop people having guns that are not the norm for general use in Canada,yes.
So should we not be working on the mentally ill? Like I mentioned a gun is a gun and ALL designed to kill . Doesn't matter if its and animal or person it all depends on who is behind the gun. Removing 11 firearms from the thousands that are out there will solve nothing.
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[QUOTE=Gilroy;1111819]Why ???? Likely out of respect for the victims families ! Something your hero Village Idiot and minion Liar Billy Blair, know nothing of !! Lay off the Kool-Aid there Gilly !Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Guys, you’re never going to get Gilroy to admit that he secretly agrees with your point of view.
He was a cop, and cops are much smarter than he is pretending to be.
[QUOTE=rick_iles;1111841]More great content from the armchair critic. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
When they go low we go high Michelle OBAMA.
Stop spoiling my fun, twelve years on here of watching the Conservatives chasing their tails its priceless.But honestly Justin and my old partner Billy Blair are on the right track and on the right side of history.The dinosaurs on here are a dying breed,grasping onto their guns in their cold dead hands........I mean Peter MacKay might open up the next election with a platform of "guns for everyone,open carry,AR 15s with every new bank account opened,but I kinda think it might be another wet dream. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Our pm is weak if he is willing to pull out a race card by a question related to dc tam.
Pathetic
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You lost me at "Billy Blair are on the right track".......that boob could screw up a 1 car funeral.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Gilroy...you keep refusing to answer the question, in true form of a Liberal ...focus now...the question is simple ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Are you now asserting that LEGAL gun owners are the problem with illegal gun traffic.??
Why won't you answer it..WE would like to know ??
As I said a few pages ago, the forum members that are being “oppositional” are doing so for their own entertainment, not because they believe in what they’re saying.
Carry on if it fills the day,
Sad that there are those on here that are purposely contrary just to garner attention. It's called Trolling and we all know who they are. Some have been doing it for 12yrs and totally oblivious to the fact that they have lost all credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
So this guy has no PAL or RPAL obtains firearms apparently mostly from across the border, because he can't obtain them here legally. Now the governments wants to go ahead with its assault weapon ban, which would not have prevented this from happening, so it will make the general public feel safer. I real have to wonder if you can't do anything that is going to make a difference, why they bother to do anything at all? Their motto must be : Better to be seen doing something, than doing nothing at all. . Now we the Canadian public can feel so much safer???
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
-Gun nut
They only list 4 situations that these bans would help Canadians . The last one says witch a gunman attempting to use???.
So they can only come up with 4 in the last 31 years. Its such a shame.
They talk about rapid fire I know guys who can put 5 to 7 shells through a shotgun on a flock of birds. And yes they only held 3 shots figure that out rapid fire.
What about turning a 30 30 into a semi automatic? It's been done . What does a ban do when you can change the way a firearm reacts?.
Then is all what happens over the border. What is used in the United states.
Didnt think an ar 15 was used heavily in Canada on mass murders. https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politi...-1.4918623qqqq
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That's it exactly..but the sad fact is, the Village Idiot doesn't care about the safety of Canadians, all he cares about is ; will it get him votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
See CTV has published a partial list:
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The ban includes guns that have been used in past Canadian shootings, including:
the M16
M4
the AR10
the AR15
the CZ scorpian EVO3
the Ruger Mini-14 which was used in the Ecole Polytechnique massacre in Montreal in 1989;
the M14 semi-automatic which was used in the 2014 Moncton shooting;
the Beretta CX4 Storm which was used in the Dawson College shooting; and
the CSA-VZ-58 which the gunman attempted to use in the Quebec Mosque shooting.
the Pistolet Sig Sauer Sig MCX
Robinson XCR
I seen that list or the short list. I’m going to try trade my 10/22 sks mini 14 .223 for a .50 Cal BMG that won’t be on the list :)
Remember when we used to lock up mentally ill people in asylums and we didn’t have problems with mass shootings? Those were the days....
The only two that I do not agree with are the M-16 and the M-4. Both of these were designed for military & police use only and were not available to civilians to purchase in Canada. They might as well list illegal guns as well. The AR-15 is the semi automatic version that was available to the public with a restricted license. I'm surprised the Trevor and the Swiss Arms are not on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
M-16 had two modes - semi auto and fully auto (big no, no in Canada)
M-4 was the replacement for the M-16 and had a semi auto mode and a 3 round burst mode (again big no, no in Canada)
I hope Billy Blair has a big fat cheque book cuz he will need it.......
No mass shooting with an AR - until the NS Shooter. He took the AR from a fallen police officer.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Has anyone actually seen how this so-called buy back will be paid out? Somehow,I'm having trouble envisioning a government hack writing a cheque to each owner turning in a firearm. Finance people I've been talking to are of the opinion that it will be in the form of a non-refundable tax credit. That way,no funds actually change hands and the government will never need to pay out the full amount to each owner in cash.
That looks like a carefully chosen list that very few firearms owners actually have in their collection. It's almost be design to minimize the blow back.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Yea I think this is Bill Blair's way of saving face. He knows the truth but is still required to do the task he was hired for. This is a mediocre compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
edit add: Not too thrilled that additions to the list will be done thru 'Order of Council' and not require Legislation
I have 3 of them!! If they are not paying cash for them they will be getting the receiver only and they can shove their buy back program. Everything else (bolt, trigger group, barrel, & sights) are not restricted and can be bought by anyone with a non-restricted license so I will be keeping them.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The Order in Council should have everyone seething, no matter what is or isn’t on the list. Ramming it through during Covid, using that.......
I may have missed it, in earlier discussion but certain cartridges are also going to be black listed? Which will render some bolt action rifles useless.
Some long shooters I have on FB out West are going ballistic.
AR’s have never been used in a criminal offence in Canada !!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Police services don’t use ARs to the best of my knowledge...Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
If these all these are on the list they show some figures or some numbers they may or not be accurate. You will never find the ones 6that came in the back door.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...iday-1.5549969
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That's what I was getting to they always seem to refer ar 15 to the USA shootings.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
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In one article I read , stated that the firearm taken from the dead officer was a C8, these are built by Colt, The C7 is a rifle . the C8 is a carbine version.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
C8 CQB is a compact assault rifle with a 250 mm (10") or 290 mm (11.6") barrel. It is similar to the US Mark 18 Mod 0 CQBR compact assault rifle. C8 IUR (Integrated Upper Receiver). It is a semi-automatic only version. It was adopted by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police as a standard-issue patrol carbine.
So Gilroy does banning these guns mean criminals and crazy people who have them must turn them into the Police? Can Liberals guarantee that Criminals won't get access to them.
Well once again, it shows us we can’t count on our government to protect us.
GW..don't get him started again,the thread is finally back on track ...
Proves again the preppers got it right when they ensure that they can take care of their own security.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
Once again dangerous suggestions that get citizens charged, taking the law into their own hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
No more than a Conservative Government was able to do so in the past, oh wait a minute they actually made it easier by abolishing the long gun registry and easing other gun restrictions brought in by Liberal governments in the past.So basically just added to the problem.But its okQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
we will try and sort it out once and for all.Unfortunately the Conservatives will play with your emotions again to get your votes and undo the good work of the Liberals.Shame.
Who said anyone was taking the law into their own hands ??? You do know what a prepper is don't you ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Ya think he'd keep posting if ya's just didn't respond to the bullshyte he types?
Took me about 2 seconds on the net to dispel this fake newsQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
In 1982, Saskatoon police shot 18-year-old hostage-taker Richard Landrie after a lengthy standoff. Landrie was dressed in battle fatigues and armed with an AR-15. He fired 50 rounds during the standoff, shooting off one of his hostage’s fingers.
Media reports also indicate that AR-15s have been seized in several drug raids, taken from alleged bank robbers in British Columbia, involved in a 2009 murder and employed in the 2004 drive-by shooting of Louise Russo in suburban Toronto as she waited in line to buy a sandwich for her daughter.
Oh the source is https://www.blueline.ca/a-short-hist...-15-in-canada/. You know that Police magazine thing...
Original source for above re printed under license https://theconversation.com/a-short-...-canada-123959
Thank goodness some of the Conservative MP,s get it right.
I just post the fact's and include links and all,but apparently the other side just posts stories from know FAKE NEWS SOURCES.Next.��Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
Many newspapers and MPs also demanded action. Jean-Pierre Blackburn, a Progressive Conservative Quebec MP, asked:
Why are weapons of this kind allowed in Canada? Why do we let people own such dangerous and destructive weapons? That doesn’t make sense. Protecting the public and public safety should be our prime concern.
Awaiting your reply LOL
Howd ya know I was talking about you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Gilroy are criminals breaking the law when they have illegal guns will these laws force criminals to hand in their guns?
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
You do realize that an Ar 15 is no more powerful then any other 223 semi auto (I hope you know this because if you don't you should not be allowed to own any guns whatsoever.)
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Lifetime firearms ban for violent and gang criminals
Gun laws need to target criminals, not law-abiding gun owners. Individuals who have demonstrated serious violent behaviour or have been involved in gang activity have forfeited the right to ever be trusted to own a firearm. A Conservative government led by Andrew Scheer will make lifetime firearms bans mandatory for all serious personal injury offences and gang crimes.
Were're OK lads Andrew is coming to the rescue of the Canadian public he is going to give Lifetime Firearm's bans for career criminals. LOL
Yes they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
https://www.toronto.com/news-story/7...ife-paralysis/
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The sight of Louise Russo smiling and laughing is enough to puzzle most people.
Shouldn’t the woman who was struck by a Colt AR-15 bullet in a botched mob hit inside a North York sandwich shop 13 years ago, rendering her a paraplegic, be angry?
How come you Conservatives want to ban everybody from owning a firearm.He,he....keep them coming lads...Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Just a wild guess, because if you were talking about Mikepal you would probably say he was full of hot wind....Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
Yes Sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
I stand corrected.....one instance !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
You know I really don't know if your just trying to play a joker. But you don't sound intelligent. Do you think you could actually answer a question.
Do you really believe these bans will do anything? Would you be willing to place a bet on it for everything?
It's quite obviously the way you act you do want guns banned your comments actually do show that.
Do you truly believe Trudeau is intelligent? I suspect my 14 year old is more intelligent than Trudeau could hope to be.
Why are you anti gun (we know you are that is a fact your actions on here say that).
Do you truly believe by targeting gun owners will stop criminals?
You know I have thought of dropping down your way but to be honest I would not, knowing how anti gun you are by your comments, I could not do that in good faith to myself.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Apology accepted again.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Do not give this mall cop any attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Wasn’t directed at you.....again !Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
No, just another Liberal Troll....Don’t feed the Trolls !!Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661