Competition coyote hunt

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HIGHBANK COYOTE COMPETITON HUNT
February 7&8 2015
$100 Entry Fee For group of 4
Additional Members are $30 each
All Teams Must Be registered
By January 30 2015
Cash Prizes For Biggest Coyote
And For Group With Most Coyotes
RULES
All coyotes will be weighed in daily between 6pm-7pm
All coyotes must be shot on day of competition we will be doing temperature checks
Anyone team caught cheating will be disqualified with no refund
You can hunt anywhere as long as you are at the club house in Shelburne for weigh ins before end of time
Coyotes can be hunted anyway you like
Contact Adam 705-309-3024 or Rodney 519-939-6589 leave messages

whats the prize ???????????????

We will have cash prizes for most coyotes and biggest coyotes. We have local companies donating stuff for door prizes and raffles. We will also be doing a 50/50

Not sure if that's legal.

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Originally Posted by JUDGE

Not sure if that's legal.

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Why not?

It is just a coyote version of a big buck contest.

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Originally Posted by JUDGE

Not sure if that's legal.

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Why not , years ago they had " Ground Hog, Competition Shoots " based out of Durham On., back when there were a lot of ground hogs in the surrounding farms , now the coyotes have taken over .

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Originally Posted by Fox

Why not?

It is just a coyote version of a big buck contest.

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I think he means the hunt for profit part.. Of course that changed earlier this year but many people still don't know that we can now as hunter ask for or be offered money( prizes) to hunt. Why anyone would have to offer me money to hunt on their propety?
Many times when I talk to people about removing pigeons or groundhogs, they are worried it will cost them money. No don't want a cent, but you may have to eat a pigeon pie....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

I think he means the hunt for profit part.. Of course that changed earlier this year but many people still don't know that we can now as hunter ask for or be offered money( prizes) to hunt. Why anyone would have to offer me money to hunt on their propety?
Many times when I talk to people about removing pigeons or groundhogs, they are worried it will cost them money. No don't want a cent, but you may have to eat a pigeon pie....:rolleyes:

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Every county has a big buck contest in the fall, it is no different than that.

There is no money to hunt, it is money/prizes for the largest, coolest, weirdest, whatever animal.

This is not commercial hunting.

Hunting for profit is what most coyote hunters do, they hunt to remove coyotes from the farmland they raise their animals on and they sell any furs they get to recoup funds, no idea if they ever break even but they are trying.

Some other organization tried the same thing a couple of years ago. The animal rights nuts went ballistic with press releases,viral you tube vids and made all hunters look like knuckle-dragging neanderthals using it all against us. We all felt the heat for a long time. Personally.not that anyone asked,I think we can do without the bad press and this contest needs a big re-think.

Then we should stop all forums, we should stop selling product, we should not have TV shows and we should get rid of any big buck/doe contests as well.

You don't want to offend someone.

Why is it that you can't post something on here with hopes of making new freinds having a good time and doing what we love without someone turning it into a matter of opinion? Always some sort of bs starts because one person has no idea what they are talking about and needs to just keep their typing fingers stopped and move on

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Originally Posted by highvalley

Why is it that you can't post something on here with hopes of making new freinds having a good time and doing what we love without someone turning it into a matter of opinion? Always some sort of bs starts because one person has no idea what they are talking about and needs to just keep their typing fingers stopped and move on

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Oh,you can post anything you want (as long as it's not defamatory or libelous.) If you're looking for people to rubber-stamp everything you say,though,that ain't happenin',ever.

Hope you have a great turn out.
I would be in but its a little to far away.

I a,so hope you have a great turn out! I love knowing these kind of contests are out there! It's a great to way make new friends and share story's!

I just hunt and I don't care what others opinion is on what I do. They can kiss my !!

There's one starting up in Niagara after the end of the deer season ... I'm already entered . !

Can hardly wait to start thinning out that invasive species!

I would be in for sure if the TO sportsman show was not that weekend...

I find it funny how people can be against a coyote contest... really? everyone who posted and deer hunts likely throws their money in the pot for their local deer contest, OMW, etc etc and then worry what the anti's think of a coyote hunt...

Coyotes are a threat to house pets, livestock and potentially people... there is in theory, more reason to run coyote contests then deer. I dont yote hunt and never have but the more guys i see smashing yotes the bigger my smile gets. helps when im in the stand or ground blind and see more deer and turkeys then the previous year

We downed a deer in this years controlled hunt @ last light. We gave the deer the usual 1hr to expire as we usually do. When we found the deer the Coyotes ate one hind quarter. Gone are the days of backing out & coming back in the morning if it was a questionable shot. The deer will be consumed by the varmints by morning.

I will be back to my bush in January to take care of that problem...

Highvalley, are you guys advertising anywhere locally?


I have asked about 10 people I know from Shelburne area if they know about this contest....None of them had a clue....Lots of coyote chasers around this area....Just trying to get some more competition

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

We downed a deer in this years controlled hunt @ last light. We gave the deer the usual 1hr to expire as we usually do. When we found the deer the Coyotes ate one hind quarter. Gone are the days of backing out & coming back in the morning if it was a questionable shot. The deer will be consumed by the varmints by morning.

I will be back to my bush in January to take care of that problem...

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Wife and I were at Hullet on Sunday..there were turkey feathers and kill sites all over the place.
Saw a ladder stand and only 30 to 50 yards away was a dead doe..killed just hours before I found it.
I think I pushed the coyotes off their kill because some of the chewed places looked very fresh.

I think this is a great contest.
Our group would love to join in on this but its a 3 hour drive which shortens our hunting time and makes the contest unfair to us southern boys.
Our experience has been that "hunters" enter contest and you get road shooters and "hunters" baiting coyotes to fatten them up for contest.
Again just the facts because where moneys involved people cheat.

If anyone needs a fourth gunner on the snowy knoll, pm me. Might be able to swing it.

We will be advertising in the local shops shortly. We are currently just finishing up the advertisement and making sure we have all the rules in order. One thing we have added since I posted this is that no off-road vehicles can be used to harvest the coyotes. All coyotes must be taken legally. There will be more boys around shelburne area talking this up shortly as now the Barton boys are in on it as well

Anyone with contacts at local hunting/fishing stores could pass my name and number onto them to have them contact me. 705-309-3024 Adam Rowbotham

Just so everyone knows. We are not supplying land for people to hunt. This is fair game to anyone that has permission for land. Getting a lot of questions about how we will get everyone spread out on the land to hunt. If they need to get permission to hunt on land in dufferin county and so on. This is not a free for all in dufferin county. You must have permission to hunt any land any time. Not just for this hunt so don't treat this hunt any different.

Best of luck with the tournament.... I hope everyone involved represents us hunters in a positive light.....Looking forward to some tasteful pics and exciting hunting stories....

What do you do if PETA shows up ? Do you have a spokesman to speak on your behalf ?

Not sure how PETA will show up. If they do it will only because someone in the tourny gives out the location of the hunt. Only people that are putting a team in will know about this.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

What do you do if PETA shows up ? Do you have a spokesman to speak on your behalf ?

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Valid question. I'm not against this contest but it's always wise to cover all your bases just in case.

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Originally Posted by TPM

Valid question. I'm not against this contest but it's always wise to cover all your bases just in case.

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We had it once at a dog sled race that they may show up. The race committee got together to discuss possible scenarios and appointed a spokesperson just in case they did show up. They never did but have heard other dog venues having them show up.

Attention!!!
After recieving a phone call from an officer with th ministry of natural resources we will no longer be having the contest for most coyotes killed we will only be doing a contest for the biggest coyote killed.
Sorry for an confusion we do not know the reasoning behind this.

no problem.............just keep getting a bigger one,,,,,,,,,,,same contest,,,,

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Originally Posted by highvalley

Attention!!!
After recieving a phone call from an officer with th ministry of natural resources we will no longer be having the contest for most coyotes killed we will only be doing a contest for the biggest coyote killed.
Sorry for an confusion we do not know the reasoning behind this.

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Its called damage control. If the MNR was to allow a contest for most coyotes there would be a risk that some left-wing group would complain and then of course it becomes political. So by telling you that you can't hold a 'most coyote shot' contest they are keeping the Minister from having to speak.

There is no rule that says you can't, they are just using the powers (which are too vast and too open to interpretation) to make sure the contest does not come onto the radar of the media.

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Originally Posted by highvalley

Attention!!!
After recieving a phone call from an officer with th ministry of natural resources we will no longer be having the contest for most coyotes killed we will only be doing a contest for the biggest coyote killed.
Sorry for an confusion we do not know the reasoning behind this.

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It would be nice to know there justification, there is nothing illegal with shooting as many as you want, there are no quotas in that area so it seems as though they have no basis for this.

This is in interesting read on the subject...

http://www.ecoissues.ca/MNR's_Silenc...tes_and_Wolves

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

This is in interesting read on the subject...

http://www.ecoissues.ca/MNR's_Silenc...tes_and_Wolves

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It is, so they cannot justify anything being illegal, so how do they say that you cannot have a contest for a total number?

There used to be contests on groundhog numbers.

If it were only about coyotes might have acted - but you can hardly ban coyote hunt contests without banning big buck contests. And I don't think the MNR is prepared for the negative response that that would generate. Fishing tournaments would be next to go too. The MNR saw the start of the slippery slope here and decided they didn't want to go there.

The MNR's response...
http://www.eco.on.ca/uploads/Ministr...0005denied.pdf

As I stated, this is political and has nothing to do with the law. If I were running the contest I would have a copy of this letter and I would be rubbing their noses in it. Since 2011 there have been no changes in the FWCA.

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Originally Posted by highvalley

Attention!!!
After recieving a phone call from an officer with th ministry of natural resources we will no longer be having the contest for most coyotes killed we will only be doing a contest for the biggest coyote killed.
Sorry for an confusion we do not know the reasoning behind this.

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In a word----"OPTICS".

For sure optics but I can also see the mnr being concerned about coyotes being taken by less than legal means since there are prizes involved.

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Originally Posted by Hunter John

For sure optics but I can also see the mnr being concerned about coyotes being taken by less than legal means since there are prizes involved.

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John,
I understand what you are trying to say but if that were the case then the MNR is being allowed to make the assumption that someone will break the law.
There is no bag limit on coyote so there is no valid reason to restricting the contest.

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Originally Posted by highvalley

Attention!!!
After recieving a phone call from an officer with th ministry of natural resources we will no longer be having the contest for most coyotes killed we will only be doing a contest for the biggest coyote killed.
Sorry for an confusion we do not know the reasoning behind this.

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That would seem strange...could you give out prizes for total pounds of coyotes killed - similar to a fishing tournament?

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

That would seem strange...could you give out prizes for total pounds of coyotes killed - similar to a fishing tournament?

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Only if they practice "catch and release" hunting.LOL

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

John,
I understand what you are trying to say but if that were the case then the MNR is being allowed to make the assumption that someone will break the law.
There is no bag limit on coyote so there is no valid reason to restricting the contest.

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You are correct but a good example of assuming someone will break the law is the requirement to secure your gun or bow in a case after dark walking out of the bush.

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Originally Posted by Hunter John

You are correct but a good example of assuming someone will break the law is the requirement to secure your gun or bow in a case after dark walking out of the bush.

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Which is another law that I object to. Travelling with a loaded firearm in a vehicle is a reasonable law based on safety and the need to have a law in place to stop hunting from a vehicle. The encased firearm law is at odds with my natural survival instinct when I am in an area with bears or other large predators.
I agree with you observation, I am just not tickled with some of the laws as I believe many are not well stated and serve any real purpose.

Agreed

Gilroy can step in..he can spew fodder all day....

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Originally Posted by highvalley

Not sure how PETA will show up. If they do it will only because someone in the tourny gives out the location of the hunt. Only people that are putting a team in will know about this.

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ahhahahhahha...best response so far...go get em...

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Originally Posted by COYHUNTER

no problem.............just keep getting a bigger one,,,,,,,,,,,same contest,,,,

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Originally Posted by line052

ahhahahhahha...best response so far...go get em...

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So the new category is best or most difference in weight of previous coyote. The rule would then state that even a second coyote taken with a 15 lb difference from the first would beat a total of say five coyote taken with only a 2 lb difference between each. This rule then puts the hunter into a scenario to hunt largest vs total. With this wording you can address the MNR response and still have a separate category to hunt. It may actually be better since there is an additional element to the hunt

We have also dropped this to a one day hunt as we don't see a point in having a 2 day hunt when we aren't going for a group with the most. So we will be huhting Saturday February 7. Weigh ins and prizes will conclude that evening with a BBQ and the team with te heaviest male coyote be awarded as well as the team with the heaviest female. Sorry guys but after hearing this news it has really put a damper on things.

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Originally Posted by highvalley

We have also dropped this to a one day hunt as we don't see a point in having a 2 day hunt when we aren't going for a group with the most. So we will be huhting Saturday February 7. Weigh ins and prizes will conclude that evening with a BBQ and the team with te heaviest male coyote be awarded as well as the team with the heaviest female. Sorry guys but after hearing this news it has really put a damper on things.

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If you think your going to get any woman to tell you her real weig..........OH YOU MEAN COYOTE!!!!!!

Never mind....As you were..

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

This is in interesting read on the subject...

http://www.ecoissues.ca/MNR's_Silenc...tes_and_Wolves

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Thanks for that link, I was wondering what happened with the kerfuffle in Osgoode.

Theirs was a little different, with every proof of kill (ears I believe), you bought a $2 ticket on a draw for a new shotgun.

The only 'bad' side (if you can call it that), in this contest is if the guys hold back and not shoot the smaller ones in the hopes of getting a bigger one for a prize...they all need to be culled.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The only 'bad' side (if you can call it that), in this contest is if the guys hold back and not shoot the smaller ones in the hopes of getting a bigger one for a prize...they all need to be culled.

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Don't think that is going to happen, I'm sure guys are going to kill every yote they can! It's not like you can only enter ONE yote you can enter as many as you like but the biggest female and biggest male take home the prizes.

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Originally Posted by duckslayer

Don't think that is going to happen, I'm sure guys are going to kill every yote they can! It's not like you can only enter ONE yote you can enter as many as you like but the biggest female and biggest male take home the prizes.

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I was being facetious..LOL...like guys do with Bucks :)

But..if an easy shot on a small yote is passed in favour of risker shot at a 'prize' yote and both are lost...not good :(

If someone can tell the weight of a coyote at 100-300 yards then good on then