Fed Issue #61 - Trudeau tax changes for small businesses called " anti-business"

No need to make a comment on this .....


The latest version of the Liberals’ small-business tax measures are outright confiscatory

Allan Lanthier: With both its rhetoric and its legislative initiatives, the government seems intent on driving business investment and jobs out of Canada
http://business.financialpost.com/op...t-confiscatory
A small-business owner takes risks that a salaried employee does not. Family assets are often put at risk; there are many business failures; there are no indexed pensions; there are no paid vacations or paid maternity or paternity leaves.Still, the small-business rate was introduced to assist in the financing and expansion of business activities in Canada — not for passive investments. And so a thoughtful and measured legislative response may well be in order. However, the government’s proposal — with or without a $50,000 annual exemption — is neither. It should be abandoned.


Speaking in Davos at the World Economic Forum in January, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau continued his anti-business mantra. He stated that “too many corporations have put the pursuit of profit before the well-being of their workers,” and that “companies avoid taxes and boast record profits with one hand, while slashing benefits with the other.” With both its rhetoric and its legislative initiatives, the government seems intent on driving business investment and jobs out of Canada.

Confiscation indeed.

Oh well, he'll learn... And we will pay the price when most profitable company will be out of here....

I'll just add it here, the continuous rape of low paying tax payers is ongoing so it would be pointless to keep going until I hit 1,000 assaults on Canadians .....


CRA cracks down on undeclared tips for restaurant and bar staff
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle38025478/

92% of families face tax hike of over $2,200 beginning in 2019: Fraser Institute
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...aser-institute

The Liberals are idiots. Trudeau is an Idiot. Wynne is an idiot.
We'd be better off flipping a coin to make decisions, at least we'd be right 50% of the time.

It's ok. He is in India for seven days with his family but only working 1/2 day. His "friend", the Aga Khan is there too. Seems he might not have learned his lesson after all.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

It's ok. He is in India for seven days with his family but only working 1/2 day. His "friend", the Aga Khan is there too. Seems he might not have learned his lesson after all.

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I mentioned that over here.... it is interesting to watch some of the international media and he seems to be the joke of the continent right now, the Aha Khan is meeting with the president and more... he seems deliberately shunned.
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...=1#post1052570

Well more LIEbral attack on the small businesses and employees....

Health and Welfare Trusts are discontinued.... what that was is a small business allocated funds into an account and you could deduct health care costs from that account paid for by the company. I know it is used by small business owners to have a way to have the company pay some or all of their health and dental costs each year.... GONE. It is replaced by the Private Health Savings Plan that many small businesses don't qualify for:

" disqualify you from a PHSP inc lude
1) A shareholder only receiving dividend income (or no income) and not being an active employee earning T4 income
ii)A sole proprietor with less than 50% non arm’s lengt h employ ees p art ic ip at in g in the plan

Translation, a small business owner where they aren't paying themselves payroll or dividends (not enough income) or paying themselves with just dividends or where the employees are part of the family... a small family business DON'T qualify. In the new PHSP those health claims will have a T4A issued and be part of their income, I was just figuring out T4A and T2215 etc on the weekend.
Nothing like a party of parasite that has everything paid for, automatic raises each year and nannies and paid vacations tearing another strip off the small and family businesses ... again.

Well remember Trudeau has never had a real Job an d even the Liberals on here have admitted they don't care how much anyone or any company is taxed as long as they are not taxed.
Remember budgets balance themselves, I challenge anyone going for a loan or mortgage to say that to the banker if they are nearing their credit limit.

When I worked at the bank had you said that to me I would have just stated you don't qualify and yes I did that for one person who was just under their limit as I did not trust them (they lied about some debts and didn't know I could see the debts).

Several years ago I came to the conclusion that the government cannot spend our tax dollars responsibility. So to that point I do whatever it takes to give them the least amount of taxes that I can. Their anti business fiscal policies are creating a vibrant and robust underground economy - which is very good business to a lot of different people.

Most people I know have day jobs and pay their fair share of taxes they cannot avoid. To get ahead one can work some OT but after the tax man gets through you there is little left, but by doing side jobs for extra cash or in exchange for other goods/services is a great way to get ahead without having to give any of it back to an incompetent government so they can turn around and hand it to a 3rd world country. Would you want a trust fund kid managing your personal finances? Then why do we have one running this country.

Keep it up Justin......this is good business for a lot of people for different reasons!

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Several years ago I came to the conclusion that the government cannot spend our tax dollars responsibility. So to that point I do whatever it takes to give them the least amount of taxes that I can. Their anti business fiscal policies are creating a vibrant and robust underground economy - which is very good business to a lot of different people.

Most people I know have day jobs and pay their fair share of taxes they cannot avoid. To get ahead one can work some OT but after the tax man gets through you there is little left, but by doing side jobs for extra cash or in exchange for other goods/services is a great way to get ahead without having to give any of it back to an incompetent government so they can turn around and hand it to a 3rd world country. Would you want a trust fund kid managing your personal finances? Then why do we have one running this country.

Keep it up Justin......this is good business for a lot of people for different reasons!

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I trust you limit your use of the social security net as you don't feel the need to pay your fair share?

But its no secret that Conservatives like to avoid paying taxes, but will still want all the benefit's others pay.

Yup, paid for my kid's child care unlike many today who want the government to (Taxpayers) to pay for it so they can afford to make trips to Cuba.
Nobody has given me free money.

I don't even have a pension I have to save my own money.

I am the one paying for your pension and all the other tax payers technically you should bow to me.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I trust you limit your use of the social security net as you don't feel the need to pay your fair share?

But its no secret that Conservatives like to avoid paying taxes, but will still want all the benefit's others pay.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

But its no secret that Conservatives like to avoid paying taxes, but will still want all the benefit's others pay.

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According to who? Can you post proof of your claim?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I trust you limit your use of the social security net as you don't feel the need to pay your fair share?

But its no secret that Conservatives like to avoid paying taxes, but will still want all the benefit's others pay.

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Well you are about as thick as a flat foot beat cop. Read this slowly and let it sink in.........I have a job that pays a handsome salary, a quarterly bonus and a car allowance (....and I pay taxes on everything) so I am at a loss for words when you utter again and again that I am not paying my fair share. I am not sure what social security you are referring to but I have not qualified for anything the government has been handing out in decades. I have been very fortunate enough not to be on UI since it was offered to electricians going to trade school back in the late 90's.

Now what I do on my time is mine and I am not about to share it with Justin and his gang of fiscal misfits. Call it anything you want but I call it civil disobedience - it is my way to stick it to the man or in this case the man boy. You see I am not a Liberal taker I am a Conservative giver. I worked my whole career and am driven to do better and perform better and to be compensated accordingly. You see I am not a silly servant that whines and moans that he deserves a raise just because he has been doing the task at hand for 'X' number of years. These are the people that are collapsing cities and states in the US.

I think what you mean to say is Conservatives are tired of being over taxed so that the Liberals can give (aka- buy votes) from people that either cannot or will not work.

" I am not sure what social security you are referring to but I have not qualified for anything the government has been handing out in decades."

Pretty simple, do you use our medical system, will you be wanting a CPP pension and OAS eventually.

You don't have a work pension?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

" I am not sure what social security you are referring to but I have not qualified for anything the government has been handing out in decades."

Pretty simple, do you use our medical system, will you be wanting a CPP pension and OAS eventually.

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Just for the sake of interest, Canada is the 9'th highest taxed country in the world.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...axed-countries

BUT - we have free health care. My friends in the USA envy that about us the most. It is not cheap and service sucks sometimes but I can personally vouch that things like Sick Kids and Cancer care is top tier when you need it.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

" I am not sure what social security you are referring to but I have not qualified for anything the government has been handing out in decades."

Pretty simple, do you use our medical system, will you be wanting a CPP pension and OAS eventually.

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Oh for lords sake Gilly, get off the soap box and quit trying convince everyone you are holier than thou! The man said he was paying plenty of taxes, I'm sure his medical services are more than paid for? You've admitted to the masses on here you have a basement dweller at your home. Are you charging him rent? Are you claiming expenses to use as a write off for your income tax? Heat, lights, water, office space to do the books? etc. ??? If not, why not? It would be legit even though it would be a sham, since it's your own kin.

Anyone who is able to make a buck without silly socks and his band of fools finding out, is doing it right!

They say tax fraud is a crime, is that before or after Justin gets his hands on it?

Trudeau in the past has stated that he believed small business were ripping off taxes and not long afterwards his Finance Minister sprinkle several million on his wife and Trudeau has a trust fund specifically setup to avoid taxes.

99.9% of all Liberals and anyone who supports them should on all accounts be considered a criminal.

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But its no secret that Conservatives like to avoid paying taxes, but will still want all the benefit's others pay.[/QUOTE]

LOL. This is funny. But you made a spelling mistake ... Liberals is spelt L-I-B-E-R-A-L-S not "Conservatives"

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Oh for lords sake Gilly, get off the soap box and quit trying convince everyone you are holier than thou! The man said he was paying plenty of taxes, I'm sure his medical services are more than paid for? You've admitted to the masses on here you have a basement dweller at your home. Are you charging him rent? Are you claiming expenses to use as a write off for your income tax? Heat, lights, water, office space to do the books? etc. ??? If not, why not? It would be legit even though it would be a sham, since it's your own kin.

Anyone who is able to make a buck without silly socks and his band of fools finding out, is doing it right!

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No Bush my son does not live in my basement he has a very nice upstairs room and no he pay's no rent. I do not declare anything against my taxes as that would be illegal. The "man" declared in his post and past posts he does work under the table so by default he is a tax cheat, there are plenty out there.

As you seem very fixated on my son and family have you managed to raise any children yourself or do you simply like to complain about other folk's kin.

If everybody decided to work under the table we would have no social security net. Maybe you would like to pay American medical insurance bills or out right pay for your treatment.

Our beloved Prime Minister is doing nothing different from the American President in these unprecedented times. We are all in this together.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

According to who? Can you post proof of your claim?

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Yeh read post 10.Next.

Well 2 of 3 of my kid's are on their the, the oldest buying a house age 29 the middle 21 is on his own and the youngest 15 well that is a bit to young to move out.

Kid's living at home? I assume your son is under 18.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

No Bush my son does not live in my basement he has a very nice upstairs room and no he pay's no rent. I do not declare anything against my taxes as that would be illegal. The "man" declared in his post and past posts he does work under the table so by default he is a tax cheat, there are plenty out there.

As you seem very fixated on my son and family have you managed to raise any children yourself or do you simply like to complain about other folk's kin.

If everybody decided to work under the table we would have no social security net. Maybe you would like to pay American medical insurance bills or out right pay for your treatment.

Our beloved Prime Minister is doing nothing different from the American President in these unprecedented times. We are all in this together.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Well 2 of 3 of my kid's are on their the, the oldest buying a house age 29 the middle 21 is on his own and the youngest 15 well that is a bit to young to move out.

Kid's living at home? I assume your son is under 18.

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Is this your mandated age for a son to move out?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

" I am not sure what social security you are referring to but I have not qualified for anything the government has been handing out in decades."

Pretty simple, do you use our medical system, will you be wanting a CPP pension and OAS eventually.

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Terry,
I have paid way, way more than you have into our tax system that supports CPP, OAS, and Medical. Does that mean I should get better treatment or preferential treatment than you do? No it does not, so I suggest you once again stop trying to dig your way out of a hole - as entertaining as that is.

So are you suggesting that there is a certain level or cap that someone needs to pay in order to obtain these benefits? Since I am subsidizing all these useless boobs that would rather collect SERB than work because SERB pays them more, and those still living in their parents basements while trying to figure out life - I think that is a very valid question. I guess you also support the Liberal's basic income plight which will do nothing more than just raise the low water mark of society - as everything else goes up to support this. Again this will only feed the underground economy.

Oh.....just so you know the last two side jobs I did (a Kitchen and a basement) were for card carrying Liberal, Ford hating teachers! They were the ones that suggested I get paid in cash. So how do you round those corners? Maybe it is Canadians in general - not just Conservatives but Liberals, & NDP are tired to being taxed. I have also done a lot of work for Coppers and they are so cheap they make teachers look good - LOL. They will do anything to save a nickel.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

No Bush my son does not live in my basement he has a very nice upstairs room and no he pay's no rent. I do not declare anything against my taxes as that would be illegal. The "man" declared in his post and past posts he does work under the table so by default he is a tax cheat, there are plenty out there.

As you seem very fixated on my son and family have you managed to raise any children yourself or do you simply like to complain about other folk's kin.

If everybody decided to work under the table we would have no social security net. Maybe you would like to pay American medical insurance bills or out right pay for your treatment.

Our beloved Prime Minister is doing nothing different from the American President in these unprecedented times. We are all in this together.

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Depending on the state you live in a cheaper cost of living and the fact that you pay a health tax levy on your income tax would negate any medical insurance bills down south. There is an advantage of less wait time and advanced procedures that aren't available in Canada. I'm pretty sure that you don't need to claim immediate family paying rent in Canada as long as they are under the same roof.

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Well you are about as thick as a flat foot beat cop. Read this slowly and let it sink in.........I have a job that pays a handsome salary, a quarterly bonus and a car allowance (....and I pay taxes on everything) so I am at a loss for words when you utter again and again that I am not paying my fair share. I am not sure what social security you are referring to but I have not qualified for anything the government has been handing out in decades. I have been very fortunate enough not to be on UI since it was offered to electricians going to trade school back in the late 90's.

Now what I do on my time is mine and I am not about to share it with Justin and his gang of fiscal misfits. Call it anything you want but I call it civil disobedience - it is my way to stick it to the man or in this case the man boy. You see I am not a Liberal taker I am a Conservative giver. I worked my whole career and am driven to do better and perform better and to be compensated accordingly. You see I am not a silly servant that whines and moans that he deserves a raise just because he has been doing the task at hand for 'X' number of years. These are the people that are collapsing cities and states in the US.

I think what you mean to say is Conservatives are tired of being over taxed so that the Liberals can give (aka- buy votes) from people that either cannot or will not work.

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Terry,
I have paid way, way more than you have into our tax system that supports CPP, OAS, and Medical. Does that mean I should get better treatment or preferential treatment than you do? No it does not, so I suggest you once again stop trying to dig your way out of a hole - as entertaining as that is.

So are you suggesting that there is a certain level or cap that someone needs to pay in order to obtain these benefits? Since I am subsidizing all these useless boobs that would rather collect SERB than work because SERB pays them more, and those still living in their parents basements while trying to figure out life - I think that is a very valid question. I guess you also support the Liberal's basic income plight which will do nothing more than just raise the low water mark of society - as everything else goes up to support this. Again this will only feed the underground economy.

Oh.....just so you know the last two side jobs I did (a Kitchen and a basement) were for card carrying Liberal, Ford hating teachers! They were the ones that suggested I get paid in cash. So how do you round those corners? Maybe it is Canadians in general - not just Conservatives but Liberals, & NDP are tired to being taxed. I have also done a lot of work for Coppers and they are so cheap they make teachers look good - LOL. They will do anything to save a nickel.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Yeh read post 10.Next.

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Is this what your referring to?.. lol

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Terry,
I have paid way, way more than you have into our tax system that supports CPP, OAS, and Medical. Does that mean I should get better treatment or preferential treatment than you do? No it does not, so I suggest you once again stop trying to dig your way out of a hole - as entertaining as that is.

So are you suggesting that there is a certain level or cap that someone needs to pay in order to obtain these benefits? Since I am subsidizing all these useless boobs that would rather collect SERB than work because SERB pays them more, and those still living in their parents basements while trying to figure out life - I think that is a very valid question. I guess you also support the Liberal's basic income plight which will do nothing more than just raise the low water mark of society - as everything else goes up to support this. Again this will only feed the underground economy.

Oh.....just so you know the last two side jobs I did (a Kitchen and a basement) were for card carrying Liberal, Ford hating teachers! They were the ones that suggested I get paid in cash. So how do you round those corners? Maybe it is Canadians in general - not just Conservatives but Liberals, & NDP are tired to being taxed. I have also done a lot of work for Coppers and they are so cheap they make teachers look good - LOL. They will do anything to save a nickel.

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The only person digging a hole is yourself openly declaring you cut corners and work under the table, pretty stupid to declare on a open public forum.
If your not issuing a receipt for the "electrical work done" and lets say there is a fire at a place you worked, would you stand by the home owners and declare you did the work to an insurance company, or would your client's get pushed under the bus.

In relation to you paying more than me, I very much doubt it. I pay taxes on both a rural and city property, I even pay taxes into another country. So that would be triple taxation.

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Originally Posted by WillieBeno

Depending on the state you live in a cheaper cost of living and the fact that you pay a health tax levy on your income tax would negate any medical insurance bills down south. There is an advantage of less wait time and advanced procedures that aren't available in Canada. I'm pretty sure that you don't need to claim immediate family paying rent in Canada as long as they are under the same roof.

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I had a female friend who had a little trailer in Arizona, she went every year even had travel insurance. She suffered a mild heart attack, $30,000.00 for a weekend stay, they did every test under the sun. She was denied coverage as they said she had a pre existing condition, got hounded by collection agencies. Had to sell up at a loss and no longer goes down there.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Is this what your referring to?.. lol

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Is he a Conservative voter and does he avoid paying taxes, you can figure this one out.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I had a female friend who had a little trailer in Arizona, she went every year even had travel insurance. She suffered a mild heart attack, $30,000.00 for a weekend stay, they did every test under the sun. She was denied coverage as they said she had a pre existing condition, got hounded by collection agencies. Had to sell up at a loss and no longer goes down there.

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Stupid female friend you have for not being aware of what insurance she signed up for ...lol

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I had a female friend who had a little trailer in Arizona, she went every year even had travel insurance. She suffered a mild heart attack, $30,000.00 for a weekend stay, they did every test under the sun. She was denied coverage as they said she had a pre existing condition, got hounded by collection agencies. Had to sell up at a loss and no longer goes down there.

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There is a difference between traveler's and residents insurance I'm sure. Sounds like the hospital probably thought they were going to milk the insurance company with all the testing.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

But its no secret that Conservatives like to avoid paying taxes, but will still want all the benefit's others pay.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Is he a Conservative voter and does he avoid paying taxes, you can figure this one out.

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You stated Conservatives. He is one out of millions who pays more than you. Please enlightened us about the millions of Conservatives you speak so poorly of? Maybe a link or proof of you degrading of all Conservatives tax cheats

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I had a female friend who had a little trailer in Arizona, she went every year even had travel insurance. She suffered a mild heart attack, $30,000.00 for a weekend stay, they did every test under the sun. She was denied coverage as they said she had a pre existing condition, got hounded by collection agencies. Had to sell up at a loss and no longer goes down there.

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What's your point......if she had a pre-existing medical condition then she should not of been travelling. Then again, leave it to the Liberals to always avoid the fine print.

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Originally Posted by WillieBeno

There is a difference between traveler's and residents insurance I'm sure. Sounds like the hospital probably thought they were going to milk the insurance company with all the testing.

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Exactly and being insurance they look for way's to disqualify you.

Another friend had to fly her mother back from Jamaica last weekend, they sent her there to get her away from Brampton and any Covid problems. She is 82 years old, took ill down there and the Doctors would not let her leave as she was unstable.
After running up big bill's and a lot of unnecessary tests they managed to get her on a private jet with a nurse direct from Jamaica to Toronto bill for the trip $26,000.00. She is now in palliative care and will probably not make it past this week.

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What's your point......if she had a pre-existing medical condition then she should not of been travelling. Then again, leave it to the Liberals to always avoid the fine print.

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What does the Liberals have to do with the fine print on an insurance contract? A pre existing condition can mean almost anything to an insurance company and an illness you have on file might be completely unrelated to what you come down with and you will still get denied.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Exactly and being insurance they look for way's to disqualify you.

Another friend had to fly her mother back from Jamaica last weekend, they sent her there to get her away from Brampton and any Covid problems. She is 82 years old, took ill down there and the Doctors would not let her leave as she was unstable.
After running up big bill's and a lot of unnecessary tests they managed to get her on a private jet with a nurse direct from Jamaica to Toronto bill for the trip $26,000.00. She is now in palliative care and will probably not make it past this week.

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Again I don't understand your point? Did she not buy insurance before she left for Jamaica? Have you ever inquired what our hospitals charge any travellers to Canada that don't have insurance.......it would make the $26,000.00 look like chump change.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Exactly and being insurance they look for way's to disqualify you.

Another friend had to fly her mother back from Jamaica last weekend, they sent her there to get her away from Brampton and any Covid problems. She is 82 years old, took ill down there and the Doctors would not let her leave as she was unstable.
After running up big bill's and a lot of unnecessary tests they managed to get her on a private jet with a nurse direct from Jamaica to Toronto bill for the trip $26,000.00. She is now in palliative care and will probably not make it past this week.

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Traveling abroad when told to stay home, how stupid.
If Trudeaus hadn't been such a failure dealing with covid she wouldn't have a need to leave.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

You stated Conservatives. He is one out of millions who pays more than you. Please enlightened us about the millions of Conservatives you speak so poorly of? Maybe a link or proof of you degrading of all Conservatives tax cheats

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Do you have proof he pays more than me? Next.

Conservatives get on their soap boxes every election and tell us they want to avoid imposing taxes, but then expecting us to believe that our social security net will not get cut's some where, a fool's game for fool's to believe.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

What does the Liberals have to do with the fine print on an insurance contract? A pre existing condition can mean almost anything to an insurance company and an illness you have on file might be completely unrelated to what you come down with and you will still get denied.

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Have you ever bother to look up what the definition of a pre-existing condition is on an insurance contract? Its pretty cut and dry actually.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Exactly and being insurance they look for way's to disqualify you.

Another friend had to fly her mother back from Jamaica last weekend, they sent her there to get her away from Brampton and any Covid problems. She is 82 years old, took ill down there and the Doctors would not let her leave as she was unstable.
After running up big bill's and a lot of unnecessary tests they managed to get her on a private jet with a nurse direct from Jamaica to Toronto bill for the trip $26,000.00. She is now in palliative care and will probably not make it past this week.

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I believe there is insurance you can get that is for strictly flying you home if you take ill, probably should've looked into that before departure. Prayers for your friend's Mom.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Traveling abroad when told to stay home, how stupid.
If Trudeaus hadn't been such a failure dealing with covid she wouldn't have a need to leave.

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If China had not been developing a bio weapon in the laboratory in Wuhan, none of us would have a problem. Next.

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Originally Posted by WillieBeno

I believe there is insurance you can get that is for strictly flying you home if you take ill, probably should've looked into that before departure. Prayers for your friend's Mom.

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Your probably right Willie, to late for the Mum, she told the kid's two nights ago she is going home to meet her husband and he passed away last year.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Conservatives get on their soap boxes every election and tell us they want to avoid imposing taxes, but then expecting us to believe that our social security net will not get cut's some where, a fool's game for fool's to believe.

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Proof or speculation? I see no links to your claims....lol

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

If China had not been developing a bio weapon in the laboratory in Wuhan, none of us would have a problem. Next.

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How about if the idiot Trudeau had have shutdown air travel we wouldn't be dealing with covid like other countries that are back to business.
Why would Trudeau attempt to buy vaccines from China if they created a bio-weapon?
Liberal failure to protect Canadians...lol...

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

If China had not been developing a bio weapon in the laboratory in Wuhan, none of us would have a problem. Next.

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I believe it was Fauci and a few other bad actors that were funding the gain of function virus manipulation in Wuhan after they were booted from the U.S. but that's another topic.

Generally that is when you leave for College, however the youngest may stay at home while going to College the others didn't want to, I left home at 18, my siblings did and my dad left at 17 as well as my mom. Are you going to raise your son forever. My kids have made mistakes, my daughter now contacts me for any advice on finance, house repairs etc. If I don't know the answer my dad does on finance on other stuff if I don't know the answer I contact others and then take the results and review them. The middle kid is making a bunch of mistakes right now and it's going to cost him but that is life. The youngest is learning fast and I am teaching him about investing now.

For the most part I do not give free handouts and if I do there are severe strings attached.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Is this your mandated age for a son to move out?

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Well Trudeau has raise my taxes every year, yet he refuses to pay his fair share, nice to have a money the daddy left you sheltered from taxes.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Do you have proof he pays more than me? Next.

Conservatives get on their soap boxes every election and tell us they want to avoid imposing taxes, but then expecting us to believe that our social security net will not get cut's some where, a fool's game for fool's to believe.

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Not sure where you got this info, although there is/was speculation for the most part it was ruled out unless China had developed a new way of making Biological weapons. Generally when you splice material together in a virus there are tell tale signs of it, however in this case they could not find any. Although that does not 100% rule it out. The speculation is still it made the jump from animals to humans in a wet market (this has happened before).

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

If China had not been developing a bio weapon in the laboratory in Wuhan, none of us would have a problem. Next.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The only person digging a hole is yourself openly declaring you cut corners and work under the table, pretty stupid to declare on a open public forum.
If your not issuing a receipt for the "electrical work done" and lets say there is a fire at a place you worked, would you stand by the home owners and declare you did the work to an insurance company, or would your client's get pushed under the bus.

In relation to you paying more than me, I very much doubt it. I pay taxes on both a rural and city property, I even pay taxes into another country. So that would be triple taxation.

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Terry stop being such a simpleton. We both know as far as taxes go property taxes are a very insignificant small drop in the bucket compared to income taxes. I would be better off if they doubled my property taxes in exchange for a 10% reduction in my income taxes. Your rural property is not on the grid, not on a major body of water, so what are you paying.......maybe $1,000.....$1,500? Peanuts in the big picture.

As far as my business goes we pull permits for all work and have a numbered company - with insurance (requirement) and NO corners are cut as there is only one way to do electrical work and that is the correct way. It is the home owner that always asks to pay in cash (we NEVER offer) - sometimes the answer is yes and other times it is no it depends on the situation, and yes most of these people are Liberals (teachers, cops and other silly servants). You cannot run a business for long running everything off the books because you need a profit to pay for tools, trucks, equipment and to allow you to have some nice tax deductions (vehicle, fuel, tools, golf, gun club membership, ect....). Residential wiring is not rocket science - the issues you hear about is when hacks (aka - handyman) pretending to be electricians do electrical work. In all cases there is no ESA permit, or inspection.

.....just get down off your soap box before you fall and hurt yourself

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Do you have proof he pays more than me? Next.

Conservatives get on their soap boxes every election and tell us they want to avoid imposing taxes, but then expecting us to believe that our social security net will not get cut's some where, a fool's game for fool's to believe.

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.....we know what cops make - LOL

Heyyy.... I don't do hack jobs, although I do have friends with considerable electrical experience (but they are not licensed):moose:

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Terry stop being such a simpleton. We both know as far as taxes go property taxes are a very insignificant small drop in the bucket compared to income taxes. I would be better off if they doubled my property taxes in exchange for a 10% reduction in my income taxes. Your rural property is not on the grid, not on a major body of water, so what are you paying.......maybe $1,000.....$1,500? Peanuts in the big picture.

As far as my business goes we pull permits for all work and have a numbered company - with insurance (requirement) and NO corners are cut as there is only one way to do electrical work and that is the correct way. It is the home owner that always asks to pay in cash (we NEVER offer) - sometimes the answer is yes and other times it is no it depends on the situation, and yes most of these people are Liberals (teachers, cops and other silly servants). You cannot run a business for long running everything off the books because you need a profit to pay for tools, trucks, equipment and to allow you to have some nice tax deductions (vehicle, fuel, tools, golf, gun club membership, ect....). Residential wiring is not rocket science - the issues you hear about is when hacks (aka - handyman) pretending to be electricians do electrical work. In all cases there is no ESA permit, or inspection.

.....just get down off your soap box before you fall and hurt yourself

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

How about if the idiot Trudeau had have shutdown air travel we wouldn't be dealing with covid like other countries that are back to business.
Why would Trudeau attempt to buy vaccines from China if they created a bio-weapon?
Liberal failure to protect Canadians...lol...

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There are very few countries fully back to business. China has not admitted they developed the virus.

Relationship between countries are based on trust until the trust is broken. America went down the same road as Canada.

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Originally Posted by huntervinni

Have you ever bother to look up what the definition of a pre-existing condition is on an insurance contract? Its pretty cut and dry actually.

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No its not cut and dry that is why thousands of unsuspecting Canadians get shafted every year ,this is common knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

There are very few countries fully back to business. China has not admitted they developed the virus.

Relationship between countries are based on trust until the trust is broken. America went down the same road as Canada.

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Total federal failure. OUR liberals cannot be trusted to protect Canadians. Other countries have shutdown air travel and back to business. Trudeau tells Canadians not to travel... ya sure ok...lol
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...s-enter-canada

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Not sure where you got this info, although there is/was speculation for the most part it was ruled out unless China had developed a new way of making Biological weapons. Generally when you splice material together in a virus there are tell tale signs of it, however in this case they could not find any. Although that does not 100% rule it out. The speculation is still it made the jump from animals to humans in a wet market (this has happened before).

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This info I already posted, came the head of the COD under Trump a Doctor and virologist.

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Terry stop being such a simpleton. We both know as far as taxes go property taxes are a very insignificant small drop in the bucket compared to income taxes. I would be better off if they doubled my property taxes in exchange for a 10% reduction in my income taxes. Your rural property is not on the grid, not on a major body of water, so what are you paying.......maybe $1,000.....$1,500? Peanuts in the big picture.

As far as my business goes we pull permits for all work and have a numbered company - with insurance (requirement) and NO corners are cut as there is only one way to do electrical work and that is the correct way. It is the home owner that always asks to pay in cash (we NEVER offer) - sometimes the answer is yes and other times it is no it depends on the situation, and yes most of these people are Liberals (teachers, cops and other silly servants). You cannot run a business for long running everything off the books because you need a profit to pay for tools, trucks, equipment and to allow you to have some nice tax deductions (vehicle, fuel, tools, golf, gun club membership, ect....). Residential wiring is not rocket science - the issues you hear about is when hacks (aka - handyman) pretending to be electricians do electrical work. In all cases there is no ESA permit, or inspection.

.....just get down off your soap box before you fall and hurt yourself

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Considering you are working for Cop's and teachers and cheating the tax system maybe you should come down of your soap box before you hurt yourself even more.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Total federal failure. OUR liberals cannot be trusted to protect Canadians. Other countries have shutdown air travel and back to business. Trudeau tells Canadians not to travel... ya sure ok...lol
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...s-enter-canada

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Don't worry about it with Erin as leader you will have Justine for a very long time. IMHO

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Total federal failure. OUR liberals cannot be trusted to protect Canadians. Other countries have shutdown air travel and back to business. Trudeau tells Canadians not to travel... ya sure ok...lol
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...s-enter-canada

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An open sky flight policy and a lack of available vaccines is a receipt for disaster - both failures fall squarely on Justin.

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Originally Posted by 410001661

An open sky flight policy and a lack of available vaccines is a receipt for disaster - both failures fall squarely on Justin.

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https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

Thanks' in part to the Liberal voters living in BURLINGTON . ROFLMAO Next.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Considering you are working for Cop's and teachers and cheating the tax system maybe you should come down of your soap box before you hurt yourself even more.

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I am not the the one doing the whining........I believe that is all you. If you want to preach to someone I suggest you talk to your fellow silly servants (and probably a strong Liberal voting base) and tell them they are screwing up your nirvana....LOL.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Don't worry about it with Erin as leader you will have Justine for a very long time. IMHO

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Nice attempt to deflect the truth. ERIN has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever on this subject.
This failure is all Justin and nobody else

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Originally Posted by 410001661

An open sky flight policy and a lack of available vaccines is a receipt for disaster - both failures fall squarely on Justin.

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Indeed, Justin is a degenerate failure

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

Thanks' in part to the Liberal voters living in BURLINGTON . ROFLMAO Next.

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My god you are daft. Are you telling me Justin is not to blame for these issues but it is voters in Burlington that should be blamed?

.......you are back to mall cop status Scooter

https://i.imgur.com/rxzoHar.jpg

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Originally Posted by 410001661

I am not the the one doing the whining........I believe that is all you. If you want to preach to someone I suggest you talk to your fellow silly servants (and probably a strong Liberal voting base) and tell them they are screwing up your nirvana....LOL.

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I am not whining simply pointing out the obvious you are a tax cheat admitted by your own words.

You see legally you don't get to decide what jobs you want to do above and below the table.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Nice attempt to deflect the truth. ERIN has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever on this subject.
This failure is all Justin and nobody else



Indeed, Justin is a degenerate failure

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Just pointing out the fact that even if Justin made some misstep's your choice of leader is SO LAME Canadians are not considering him.

Its OK 411

"My god you are daft. Are you telling me Justin is not to blame for these issues but it is voters in Burlington that should be blamed?

.......you are back to mall cop status Scooter"


I know I have hurt your sensitive ego when you start the name calling, I love to remind you you live in Burlington surrounded by my fellow Liberals.

If you Conservatives think you can win an election attacking the other guy's performance , you lost already.

Canadians want to know from Erin what he is going to do with China, what is is going to do help Canadians.

On here they want to know what is is going to do on the gun ban issue. What do we get "radio silence". Useless.

No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

No its not cut and dry that is why thousands of unsuspecting Canadians get shafted every year ,this is common knowledge.

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If you read and comprehend English then it's pretty simple to understand the definition. Your a law man so you should know ignorance is no excuse. There are not thousands of unsuspecting Canadians being declined and the odd time that you hear of one making the nightly news, it's pretty obvious that there was a pre-existing condition. Like the 9 month pregnant lady that decided to jump on a plane and take one last vacation to the Caribbean before the baby arrived. She was raging mad on the news demanding the insurance company pay her claim.........she didn't get a dime from them and rightfully so.
I've personally used travel insurance a number of times and never had an issue.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

On here they want to know what is is going to do on the gun ban issue. What do we get "radio silence". Useless.

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Oh really. Erin is not so silent on the gun issue
https://youtu.be/zSpdJMbJIHg

One thing we do know is how Justin looks at China. He's in love with communists
https://youtu.be/tVusYrv2jIU

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Originally Posted by 410001661

No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

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Your default position back to name calling, did you throw a lot of tantrums as a kid.

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Originally Posted by huntervinni

If you read and comprehend English then it's pretty simple to understand the definition. Your a law man so you should know ignorance is no excuse. There are not thousands of unsuspecting Canadians being declined and the odd time that you hear of one making the nightly news, it's pretty obvious that there was a pre-existing condition. Like the 9 month pregnant lady that decided to jump on a plane and take one last vacation to the Caribbean before the baby arrived. She was raging mad on the news demanding the insurance company pay her claim.........she didn't get a dime from them and rightfully so.
I've personally used travel insurance a number of times and never had an issue.

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A simple goggle check will revel plenty on pre existing conditions loop holes. Donald TRUMP saw it was such an issue that he was going to pass legislation to force insurance companies to cover folk's with pre existing conditions.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Oh really. Erin is not so silent on the gun issue
https://youtu.be/zSpdJMbJIHg

One thing we do know is how Justin looks at China. He's in love with communists
https://youtu.be/tVusYrv2jIU

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Not a whisper from Erin at his last CONVENTION, nothing on his upcoming platform. He will take your vote and you will get shafted.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Not a whisper from Erin at his last CONVENTION, nothing on his upcoming platform. He will take your vote and you will get shafted.

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Yet again I provide what you ask for and you continue to deflect. TRUTH hurts I know, but what can be expected from a drama teacher who tells Canadians the budget will balance itself. If you believe him and support such an idiot, well that speaks for itself

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

A simple goggle check will revel plenty on pre existing conditions loop holes. Donald TRUMP saw it was such an issue that he was going to pass legislation to force insurance companies to cover folk's with pre existing conditions.

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Lol.....your all over the place Gilroy. Try to stay on topic or is your OCD taking over. We are talking specifically about Canada's medical travel insurance. What has Trump to do with any of this.....next!

Gil, since this morning, you are having arguments on this topic with 5 separate people ...

A husband came home from work, and the wife screamed, "Thank God you are okay, some idiot was driving down the highway on the WRONG SIDE!"
The husband responded, "Only one guy? There were hundreds driving the wrong way!"

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Your default position back to name calling, did you throw a lot of tantrums as a kid.

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Nope not at all......just a very rational, reasonable observation.

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Originally Posted by MarkB

Gil, since this morning, you are having arguments on this topic with 5 separate people ...

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He's no ordinary Troll..he's a Professional Troll !! HaHa.

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Def: Troll..1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

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Gil, since this morning, you are having arguments on this topic with 5 separate people ...

A husband came home from work, and the wife screamed, "Thank God you are okay, some idiot was driving down the highway on the WRONG SIDE!"
The husband responded, "Only one guy? There were hundreds driving the wrong way!"

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I call them debates not arguments.

Def: Troll..1a. Noun
"One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.'

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Originally Posted by MikePal

He's no ordinary Troll..he's a Professional Troll !! HaHa.

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Well Micheal what would this message make you out to be, you could not even contribute to the debate.

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Def: Troll..1a. Noun
"One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.'




Well Micheal what would this message make you out to be, you could not even contribute to the debate.

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Well Terrance...it's not a debate when 5 people tell you your full of crap...so it's you just pointlessly arguing for the sake of arguing.

I'm must say I do enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself..that is why you do it right, just for our amusement ?

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Well Terrance...it's not a debate when 5 people tell you your full of crap...so it's you just pointlessly arguing for the sake of arguing.

I'm must say I do enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself..that is why you do it right, just for our amusement ?

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The spelling is Terence, on a Conservative based forum I expect lively debate.

I have some respect even for the guy's that debate against me but none for you, you have a very " let's say fragile ego".
Once again there is no "we" in you, your one sole member who speaks only for himself and a junior member at that.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The spelling is Terence, on a Conservative based forum I expect lively debate.

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The problem, to debate an issue you have to know what your talking about. And you don't, never have. You just like to throw out nonsense to see if anyone will play with you...rather pathetic, but if it floats your boat...

And I remember when you joined way back in the old days...You weren't even on the radar, just a pup when we moved over to this forum. I had over over 3,000 post and active member when we transferred, you hadn't even reached 'Loyal Member' on your Avatar yet. Back then there was no 'Off Topic' forum and you had little else to offer...still don't.

Is it not lost on Liberal supporters that the very businesses who are bearing the brunt to their great detriment of the Covid-19 lockdown campaigns are the very businesses that The Liberals want to raise taxes on? In what world does that make a shred of sense?

Makes sense in Trudeau's world

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Is it not lost on Liberal supporters that the very businesses who are bearing the brunt to their great detriment of the Covid-19 lockdown campaigns are the very businesses that The Liberals want to raise taxes on? In what world does that make a shred of sense?

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The problem, to debate an issue you have to know what your talking about. And you don't, never have. You just like to throw out nonsense to see if anyone will play with you...rather pathetic, but if it floats your boat...

And I remember when you joined way back in the old days...You weren't even on the radar, just a pup when we moved over to this forum. I had over over 3,000 post and active member when we transferred, you hadn't even reached 'Loyal Member' on your Avatar yet. Back then there was no 'Off Topic' forum and you had little else to offer...still don't.

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Oh how could a guy have anything to offer great one when I have absorbed the great wisdom of your "23,893" plus 3000 posts.
What more could a person learn, I am truly humbled to be in your presence. ROFLMAO.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Makes sense in Trudeau's world

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In Trudeau's world ... no related the the real one,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jue1VuzmCg


No baltic states. https://torontosun.com/2015/12/16/tr...-hurts-our-rep


Lies are OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ydFuNZXI8&feature=player_embedded

Corrupt Quebec companies good, that western oil province bad so to protect corrupt Quebec company lies are ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEVbXrja9o


She saw it different so it is her fault...
https://time.com/5328843/canadian-pr...ping-reporter/