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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Nonsense! Define "otherwise good pelt" that's not all shot to shyte or has holes in it big enough to drive a truck through. There isn't enough thread.
    Like after a hit from a 58gr 243.....some pretty big holes to sew up there !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Like after a hit from a 58gr 243.....some pretty big holes to sew up there !!
    Yep,or after a .270Win 130gr SST @ 200yds. Nothing left,but,red mist and chunks of fur. Some hunters are into cashing in pelts while others are more into pest control protecting livestock. Believe me,farmers don't give a flyin' fiddler's .... about what's left as long as they're gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Nonsense! Define "otherwise good pelt" that's not all shot to shyte or has holes in it big enough to drive a truck through. There isn't enough thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Like after a hit from a 58gr 243.....some pretty big holes to sew up there !!
    If I shoot a 20 lbs Coyote with a 458 vs a .223 the damage well be very different, but to try and say that a bullet hole or a couple holes made by buckshot makes a pelt useless is simple BS.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowwalker View Post
    If I shoot a 20 lbs Coyote with a 458 vs a .223 the damage well be very different, but to try and say that a bullet hole or a couple holes made by buckshot makes a pelt useless is simple BS.
    I said "pellets",right? I don't remember anyone mentioning buckshot.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    Yep,or after a .270Win 130gr SST @ 200yds. Nothing left,but,red mist and chunks of fur.
    I suppose there has to be some market for a Coyote patch quilt. [emoji57]

    Is it not legal to trade a pelt? Could always trade them to the crows to hear one of their beautiful songs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowwalker View Post
    Sorry you can NOT throw away an other wise good pelt simply for having a bullet or pellet holes. Learn to sew.
    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    I said "pellets",right? I don't remember anyone mentioning buckshot.

    Just to jog your memory. The original post your replying to mentioned "Pellets". As in buckshot pellets, but even T, BB, #1,#2,#3 and #4 birdshot pellets are used depending on the size of the animal.
    Last edited by Snowwalker; December 20th, 2019 at 07:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycee View Post
    As has been said, he is correct, the law only states that you must make every effort to retrieve your shot waterfowl, but what you do with it after is up to you presently.
    Quote Originally Posted by duckslayer View Post
    I think it is you who needs to show the info backing up your statements............like stated it has been discussed on here at length. i personally hope it does change with the new possession laws but as of right now there is nothing to stop someone from letting them rot after they have retrieved them.
    Ok. Guys check with the great and mighty MNRF. You are Correct. Ontario does not include Migratory birds as "Game Birds" under the Fish & Wildlife Act, so the sections on Spoilage do not apply.

    Seems strange, and disgusting. No other jurisdictions I have hunted allows you to let Migratory Birds spoil.

    Maybe since Spoilage was covered by Provincial and State Laws, they never thought to include it in the Migratory Agreement.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    cashing in on pelts? you can raise one from a pup,fox, yote, or any fur bearing pelt, or harvest a good one with a gun, you still wont be cashing in on anything accept for a good time out doors..... and that will cost you money
    Last edited by bdog; January 4th, 2020 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdog View Post
    cashing in on pelts? you can raise one from a pup,fox, yote, or any fur bearing pelt, or harvest a good one with a gun, you still wont be cashing in on anything accept for a good time out doors..... and that will cost you money
    Anything that is fun cost money.

    If you don't want to spend money on something, it must not be important in your life.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowwalker View Post
    Ok. Guys check with the great and mighty MNRF. You are Correct. Ontario does not include Migratory birds as "Game Birds" under the Fish & Wildlife Act, so the sections on Spoilage do not apply.

    Seems strange, and disgusting. No other jurisdictions I have hunted allows you to let Migratory Birds spoil.

    Maybe since Spoilage was covered by Provincial and State Laws, they never thought to include it in the Migratory Agreement.
    There was a proposal to change that in the MBCA, but I haven’t heard of any outcome yet.

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