Just read there is no Crown Land Camping until further notice.
https://news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2020/04/ontario-takes-further-action-to-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19.html?fbclid=IwAR3UyQyl_VwCB7PqNCr2QqB6PDsLnZ_35 aywNv53SkvRblrCWQRy7UyqeAg[/img]
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Just read there is no Crown Land Camping until further notice.
https://news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2020/04/ontario-takes-further-action-to-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19.html?fbclid=IwAR3UyQyl_VwCB7PqNCr2QqB6PDsLnZ_35 aywNv53SkvRblrCWQRy7UyqeAg[/img]
I received an email notice from OFAH regarding this. They will reassess on April 23rd apparently.
Very disappointing.
Good , even though I am on and island my cottage is surrounded by crown land. If I can't go to my cottage, why the heck should campers get to go camping 500 yards from my dwelling?
I don't understand how the province of Ontario can stop you on Crown Land ,
I was to believe Crown Land was Federal Land ,
Not Provincial.
Judge - Crown Land is Provincial. Trent Severn Waterways are Federal. Most boat launches are technically Municipal Land (roads).
Aw-w-w quit whinin'. There's no law against you going to your cottage,half the province is already there,anyway. That just goes to show that there's millions who aren't buying into the media-driven hysteria and no one will be the worse for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Not media hysteria when every single news source (including the un-reliable ones) are reporting the same thing. Stay home and stay safe. Personally, I can wait for warmer weather to camp on crown land.
Just because they are recommending everyone to stay home doesn't make it an offence. Until an official order is made under the law it's still just a recommendation. As for camping on crown land that currently is not allowed under an official order. When that will change remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moosehead
Trimmer, you beat me to it. Nothing or nobody says you can't go to your cottage or camp. Some people just have to quit spreading BS. It only makes things worse.
The only reasons you can't go to your cottage is most likely because the marina won't take your boat out of storage and no one else will give you a ride there across the lake?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
I have a private launch ,with my 'back and forth', tin boat upside down on shore. Just waiting for the 9.9 Merc. that is down here to be placed on it for the trip over. Easy peasy, no need to bother anyone. Now the other two large boats I have stored at the marina, am I going to have pay summer storage for them?
I wonder if they would take out Justlied's boat.... looks like a nice cottage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-5bgxkl...=1iopo08hz68xn
Aw,come on,that's hysteria writ large. Just because they report the same thing just means they're all drinking the same kool-aid,pumping up the sensationalism and cashing in on the advertising. Why else would they say the same thing over and over and over 24/7,pull every "expert" former government hack out of the woodwork to speculate ad nauseum? Is this virus serious stuff? Yep,without doubt,downright fatal for some folks with underlying conditions. IMO,we owe it to our fellow citizens to protect everyone by being cautious and considerate,but,running around in circles with our hair on fire serves no useful purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moosehead
Weird. I kind of agree with both of you.
Serious stuff? Yep, very. But more so due to the way it spreads and how fast. For the vast majority, while they might have a rough time, or a hell of a time. 97% are walking away. I had to console my daughter whose higher riskthrough her tears and fear. Get her to understand both that and that, being locked in a tiny room, 23 hours a day, while it raged outside, was safe...Not fun that.....On the other hand. Jan through March, the media was downplaying it. When we now know. Today, it’s the polar opposite.......
Some countries are doing relatively well, some not so much. You look at the US, Italy and you just want to weep. You look at prices being paid, and by whom, and you want to throttle some.
I linked an interview with an economist ( mentioned only because it lends some creditibilty) in the documentary thread. She breifly touches on the media’s role. And she is spot on.
No matter where we end up, it all could have been much, much better....Could have, and should have.
Weird. If I said said the same things about going to the cottage as posts 7,9,10, said, I would have had a piece ripped off me. Funny that.
Gord. If you can go, go.
I’m willing to bet every single person on this forum have done something in life, when they “shouldn’t have”. Whether because the reasoning not to was sound, or some other thing said no.
Me.
I am my own person, and I never do anything without good reasons. Even when other factors say no. I dont need anyone’s approval, and I dont justify my actions. Ive already “justified” it to the only person on the planet, that matters.
“Too each their own”
Funny that. You have justified visiting your daughter, to us on this site on numerous occasions, and then defied anyone to say you should not.
I have been up to the camp twice now, Seen nobody and heard no body got my tin and steel boat in the water and crossed over with out seeing no body. Went into the woods and checked cameras and placed minerals seen nobody got back home with out seeing no body and felt extremely refreshed in mind and body to face the public again till next time I go .
What's wrong with visiting your kids?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Even the prime minister visited his kids this easter weekend. [emoji6]
We dropped off some cake to our daughter on Saturday no hugs just a quick chat from drive way lol.
Didnt know we were still aloud over for an egg hunt lol so we left it at a driveway visit. When I'm stronger than our own prime minister lol. So weak haha lol.
Haven't you been to the cottage yet?
Have to check it out from the winter maybe its iced up who knows how far it is north.
What if the animals made it in some how? you just never know, you should go and check it out. Cant let it sit there what if a tree near by fell over and damaged something it happens I have no idea if you have trees that could fall on it or not.
But you should go check it out it needs to be summarized lol. Your vehicle needs a good drive it's not healthy for them to sit in the driveway. Especially if there driven every day they still need to be used often to prevent damage and seizing.[emoji106]
Hope you had a great Easter weekend.
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No I have not been to the cottage since November. I like to think that I am a responsible citizen. I follow the rules no matter how distasteful they are. I chat with my one son in Australia, on FaceTime every couple of days. The other son, is deemed an essential federal government employee, see him every day when he returns from work.......Sorry if my following the directives upsets you, that's just the kind of guy I am.
Not much upsets me and definitely not this lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
You are not breaking any rules by going to see what needs to be done at the cottage.
Did you winterize it for 2 seasons ?
You can stay at home all you please but it may be a while yet. After the opener for sure what if something happened to it during the winter or these past few wind storms ?
You would still be a responsible person if you went to the cottage and came back no? They just discourage you staying there in hopes you can ride out the virus away from the city. Be responsible buy gas in your community take your supplies for the day or 2 clean up open up . Come home dont put a burden on there supplies .
What if a bear broke in lol. If there is damage now you wouldn't want the damage any worse. For instance the wind damaged the wind pipe on the neighbors roof all the rain can get in when it warms up if it's not fixed will create mold. I have to do the right thing and them know right now to get it fixed lol. [emoji6][emoji1787]
You would be a responsible person if you checked to see if there was any winter damage. [emoji106][emoji16]
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What is necessary travel for some, is unnecessary travel for others. Go get your wool.
Can’t agree more. Also more opportunities for people to kick your door in because they think you are home obeying the Shepard. Definitely worth the trip for peace of mind on such a large investmentQuote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
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Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
“I defy anyone to say otherwise”....How easily we cherry pick
There’s a world of difference saying “I’m going to do (or did) what some say I shouldn’t” that’s a statement of fact, and I defy anyone.....
And constantly trying to justify it or whine about it.Just do it.
yeah the reasoning is sound, logic is sound. The debates “talking about it”. Whatever.
it’s not “martial law”
yet.
You said that you did not justify your actions to anyone, except yourself. I was just pointing out..... that was false. You were justifying your actions to a bunch of yahoos on an outdoor website. Who really don't care.
Hardly. There are other cottagers (Livebates for one) on this forum, that have said the same. Im going to my cottage, Im going to my daughter, Im going camping, Im going fishing. That is not trying to justify it. They are statements of fact.
Honestly G, and I struggle to articulate it. Your reasons, are your reasons. Frankly from what I know, I'd already be there. Because, we can't see tomorrow and while I think it's a very small chance, there is a very small chance JT or Ford could call in the army and like Quebec set up barricades. At which point, you won't have the option.
Someone on Facebook earlier this week posted a video taken from Thickson road of dozens, dozens of green trucks rolling down the tracks..Could mean nothing, could mean something.
And the invite for a coffee stop in remains open.
/one other thing.
Right now, we are looking at mid June before restrictions start being lifted. Could it possibly be a little earlier? Maybe. Could it be a little later? Maybe. But mid June is the target.
Everyone is fixated on "confirmed cases". Thats not the number that will determine when. Its when deaths are down to single digits.
And thats because there is a 3 week window, between contracting it and recovery or death. And because we are only testing a small percentage of the population no-one knows how many positives are actually out there. So until people that contract it say in mid late may....have the time to recover or die...and deaths are down to single digits..........
Your opinion of people leaving the city has changed in the past few days. Earlier you had called me selfish, citiot, and other names because I had considered heading north. Why the change of heart? If we survive this , I will take you up on that coffee , I will call when I am in Little Britain.
It’s called being “sarcastic”, or tit for tat. If you recall the orignal train wreck. More than once I said “it’s not about you”, it the you, +1, +2, + 1, +4 and the bad apples. I had to repeat that many times....Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Now my memory certainly isn’t what it used to be. But I also recal at one point having to point to a quote where I said “I don’t give rats backside what you do”. It’s the
6,000,000 x .1
A story in today's Peterborough Examiner reports that Curve Lake and Hiawatha FN Police have set up roadblocks at the entrances of the Reserves backed by OPP to check addresses of drivers who have cottages on FN land or must pass through the reservation to get to their cottages. If they're coming from the GTA,they're being turned around and sent home.
The number in critical just keeps edging up and that is the number that will tell the future in the deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?
I keep looking at Taiwan's numbers and wondering where ours would had they acted in January, I wonder what it would be IF they had put in airport screening, IF they had put in travel restrictions, IF they had not sent masks and equipment to China, if they asked people to wear masks and not put out such nonsense, and put in quarantines.... I also with they actually bought the equipment they said they would a month ago....
Interesting how Canada and a lab in China ... in Wuhan kept showing up on the bio-terrorism threads.... in August of last year.
https://nationalpost.com/health/bio-...ruses-to-china
The article about Canada sending stuff to China is a mere -how am i going to fill my quota as a newspaper columnist. If i have a say...
Reasoning:
Canada has(we have)proper agencies (secret service lets say)to be able to deal with shady things.If the article is true-then we don not have good use of them(which i do not believe,i think they do a good job)
China would not need to buy stuff from us,but would buy stuff from less "straightforward countries"if they would to do shady things.They are big enough to be able to do that.
Back to the thermometer-while there is a very little talk about Sweden(and i am not particularly fond of that country)they have ZERO quarantine,zero STOP,zero anything , to flatten the peak(what we and many other countries do).
Lets see where they are at with sick per million?Somewhere in the middle of the pack.............
Denmark is almost as open as Sweden ,and they are almost at the same numbers,sick per million.
I am not saying nothing ,and not fighting anyone.Slowly our society goes away from independent and critical thinking.Absolutely NO OFFENCE Mosquito,it is not about You.We just need to look around,and unfortunately ,and especially ,the newer generations are conditioned not to think,just listen and echo................Worldwide.
Yep, I see that all the time on the media, the Liberal's make an announcement and then seem to write the news story for the reporters too anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
No Cottages for rent too this summer....???
https://cottagelife.com/realestate/r...=48055e2b2eppU
We used to rent in Corpus Cristi, Tx during the month of Feb. Then the complex tied in with VRBO, AirBB or the likes and rents went up about $1300 U.S. more a month and consequently we had to look elsewhere. Sorry, but it won't bother me to see these businesses getting it up the old wazoo.
That's a big complex in the US, the link has absolutely nothing to do with Ontario cottages from the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Most Ontario cottages are private owned and rented out to subsidize repairs or extra income.
https://www.rentcottage.com/
Ours for example was planned to rent out a couple weeks to subsidize repairs to the kitchen and bathroom in the spring, all cancelled. Last year it was the new water system and tree topping and cutting, next year was supposed to be electrical not fixed by this years. Another loss of income for people and people's enjoyment ruined.
Mossy, VRBO is here as well and have been for a few years now. They're like the proverbial camel, one foot in the door and before long will corner the entire cottage rental market. Guaranteed, you'll see rental rates skyrocket. They'll offer you your going rate while handling all the advertising of your property then mark up that rate for their take.
So, your point being? To me it looks like "I want to be cheap and am angry others will pay the owner market value" .... I won't use Airbnb due to their support of the lying anti-firearm doctors but like Rentcottage, VRBO, Drop the key etc. they make money making it easier, offer services to owners and renters so the owner has less work to do and rents it out more. Staff to clean it or driving hours and doing it yourself... it is in investment and there is a certain demand... your statements seem lacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Stay home or find a hotel if you want to be cheap, if you think it will save you money. We rented from Rentcottage about 15+ years ago and started using them a few years back to pay for repairs and upgrades. The door on the 2nd floor would be nailed shut and no 2nd floor deck and the water filter may not have been added due to the costs. Rentcottage's new owners have had it for over 8, VRBO has been round atleast 20 years, people will rent it for what they find fair. The rental is also income and part of the taxes, then there are the property taxes, utilities, repairs, someone to clean and check it if you have too far to drive... I am sure there will continue to be cheap run down places you can find on Kijiji etc if you worry more about the price than the condition of the property/location/condition etc.
And I'm sure this income is reported on your income taxes?Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
Yep. Just checked the number off the filing, Form T776 (Statement of Real Estate Rentals), shared between myself and my wife, expenses like repairs, taxes and utilities documented too. Negative income but all nicely recorded and filed. The companies like Rentcottage record it and file taxes too... only the cheap Kijiji cash only cottages hide their income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
My point being what I used to pay $1500 for a months rent now costs me $2500 for the same property. Why shouldn't I be ticked off?
Over how many years did it go up to that price... remember Motel 6 no longer charges $6Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Were there upgrades/improvements/new services?
New amenities in the area?
Obviously if it changed they felt it was worth it and they could get that much.
In 2016 we paid $1500, VRBO took over in the following spring or summer and the rent went in 2017 to $2500 . That's USD not cdn. No improvements, no nothing, just new management. Now, you may think I'm being cheap by not paying that but I'm sure as heck not stupid.
When was the last time they updated the price?
Prime season someplace warm... how many people? How Old? Were they doing repairs due to a storm or hurricane?
VRBO just lists properties for other people, that is quite the jump, so show us the listing if you can find it. New owners if that is what you mean has nothing to do with it being on VRBO.
You can also do look up at what the prices are in an area for listing your own place.
https://www.vrbo.com/en-us/list
In the Muskoka's many places are more than $300 a night, this one is $300 for example. So that's $2100 CAD, 2 bedroom/1 bath for 6 people in this example I picked in July.
https://www.vrbo.com/en-ca/search/ke...05&channel=slp
all the way at quick look up to this one that sleeps 16 and is $2000 CAD PER NIGHT.
https://www.vrbo.com/en-ca/cottage-r...ure=2020-07-18
This one on Lake Simcoe for 4ppl is over $1000 per night...
https://www.vrbo.com/en-ca/cottage-r...ure=2020-07-18
If YOU don't think it is worth it, but it seems someone else does, go somewhere else, it is their choice and you can make yours.
We're well aware of how VRBO operates as I've been researching their listings for 6 or 7 years now. The listing we rented initially was a complex in Corpus Cristi. We stayed there a few years before VRBo got involved with them. Maybe 20 units of varying design, some units privately owned but still offered to renters, all modern, complete kitchen, some 2 story, some single but all designed for a minimum of 1 couple. Sorta like a motel but much more elaborate. Central outdoor heated pool, a few BBQ's placed strategically for general use. As an alternative we searched other VRBO rentals in Texas and Louisiana specifically for camp type accommodations. They were all closely the same price ways but when we corresponded directly with the owners we always got a much better rental agreement. So, as far as I'm concerned, VRBO is not a great deal for most private camp owners because the higher rents they demand narrow prospective clients down just that much more.
Keep in mind, their peak season is Jan, Feb, Mar whereas ours would be July and August. A lot of their rentals are listed at maybe $150 to $300 per night depending on quality but renting for a month through the owner you can get that same place for 30 days somewhere around $1500--and no sales tax.
Ah.... 30 days, in prime season, won't answer how many people or show the listing.... in my book that puts you in whiny cheap skate that feels entitled to special treatment or in the category like the one guy I know ... I guess best described as whiny socialist that gets upset when people other than them make money and somehow feeling entitled to special treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
The VRBO rates look good to me, in line with what other charge or even a bit cheaper. Advertising, bookings, charges and cancellation handling...
https://help.vrbo.com/articles/How-i...fee-calculated
https://blog.turnkeyvr.com/fees-home...homeaway-vrbo/
... spending all that time looking at it, whining and unable to answer questions ... although you finally did say 30 days.... don't want to pay the appropriate taxes, spending lots of time....
I am betting the 2nd.... $2,500 sounds fair in prime season for 30 days to me.... the $1500 is the guy with the noisy small one that is inconvenient, hard to be rented since few want to go back to it and the owner is hiding his income is what I am suspecting. If you can get that $1500... go for it, from what you say about checking it seems like alot of effort to just reinforce a grudge attitude to a business running and owners getting fair market value for their investment. Heck for all we know it might be their retirement income, a widow's income, funding kids going to school... and you seem upset because you can't cheat on the taxes and beat the owner down in price....
Do your homework before criticizing. Non payment of sales tax is a state initiative to bring tourism to their area. If you book say for example the month of Feb your rent would be $1500 plus $400 state sales tax. But if you book the 28 days in Feb plus two more days into March then you are not required to pay tax. So for 28 days vacation it costs me $1900 usd or 30 days it costs me $1500. I guess in your convoluted way of reasoning I'm cheap.
Another thing that seems to be over your head. These areas are financially stressed and tourism is a huge source of of income. Louisiana is one of the poorest states so their going rate for anything is substantially lower than what you would get here. If you don't shop around for the best deal, you're not cheap....you're s........!
Rather than use a rental service,friends of ours rent their cottage out by word-of-mouth through family and friends. Over the years,they've established a steady clientele who have also become good friends. They look after the place like their own and there's never been an issue of damage or irresponsible behavior. Rent is by cash only by mutual understanding. The underground economy is alive and well.
I thought this was about Crown Land Camping.....or should I say not being able to camp on Crown Land.....
I wasn't the one who brought up the rental scenario but you know how threads go in twists and turns. Thanks for getting it back on track...for awhile anyway.
True, they are usually just doing it on the cheap to cover some basic expenses and for their friends benefit not for income. Sad but the reality is S's too busy whining about the rental services like they are something new when they have been around for decades. He's also whining about spending less than $85 a day in prime season in the south in Winter when the price goes up from $50 and especially it seems that people want to make money on their investment. Well if he isn't the cheap skate as he contends and he hates people trying to make money .... then it's option 2. He's right that there are areas that tourism is a big part of the economy, didn't know about the taxes & don't care, it is great they do but his goal seems to be to hate on people and services that are benefiting them while they're trying to earn that money in the area that needs it by offering a rental at more than a discount/cheap price ...Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Services offer exposure, handle bookings, payment, track revenue and some of the expenses.... they are convenient and reasonable (other than AirBNB (due to their support of delusional Docs against firearms)) and even have feedback and screening... hating on them is like people hating on someone using any service that saves time and offers value... ah well, it is kind of fun pointing out his failures and asking him questions he won't answer but enough time wasted and sadly he likely won't get it anyway.
Anyway, the province put a kill on it too this summer it looks like... people and businesses not making money, maybe he will be happy.
https://cottagelife.com/realestate/r...=48055e2b2eppU
"On April 4, the Ontario government amended the Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act, banning short-term rentals during the COVID-19 pandemic. Specifically, the amendment states that “Every person who provides short term rentals in rental accommodations shall ensure that any rentals booked after April 4, 2020 are only provided to individuals who are in need of housing during the emergency period.”"
"...people in need of housing"......Can you imagine the shyte storm a landowner would be in after admitting welfare cases and homeless people in to their property? With current municipal and provincial "affordable" housing regulations,once in,they'd never be able to get them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
Anybody who pays 30 percent more for a product and gets absolutely nothing for it in return either has way too much money or is a complete idiot. Which one are you? Never mind answering that one.
I could see people renting out to friends or family etc. but it would be hard for a person to do for a stranger in this current environment I am afraid. If someone isn't paying their rent right now you can't even kick them out until the 6 months period is over. You can issue the warning letters so you can kick them out when that restriction is gone but you are stuck with them for ... I guess about 5 months? now.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
So if you didn't think it was worth it, who cares... I mean you dodged around how many, how long etc. and it turns out to be from $50 to less than $85 a day, less than $35 a day difference ... I guess you didn't like it that much or are a complete narcissist. Also the first opportunity you get, you go great I hope it hurts them, in regards to this ban that will affect all the cottage owners and companies like RentCottage and VRBO etc IF I am stupid in YOUR eyes... I take that as a compliment on all grounds (business, moral and financial....)Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
I never dodged one part of your question that was asked directly of me. Go back and read it again. You'll see the bulk of your questions answered. And if you still need clarification, I'm not far away.
Bottom line is I'm not willing to support some parasitic company who charges me over $1000 to do your advertising.
Waiting for the tea kettle so I have some time to waste.... let's start:Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Parasitic? "get it up the wazoo" .... your attitude and empathy scale suck.
Let's try some facts....
You want to rent a unit in prime season that you say rents for $150 to $300 a night for $1500.... cheap skate
The companies like VRBO offer a service and help people rent at market price so they get income from their investment.
OK, now to the questions you never answered?
When was the last time they increased their monthly price?
How many people in the group and size of the place?
Did the owner or management change?
You also didn't tell us how you found out about the rentals before if they weren't on VRBO etc?
I also asked if you could share the VRBO link... sure you aren't making it up?
You probably wouldn't know (or care it seems) some other questions like did the management fees change? Owners financial situation and family situation?
I bring up the fact that ONTARIO cottage owners won't be able to rent this summer and you make it about yourself in Texas and are vindictive to the businesses and cottage owners ("get it up the wazoo), you then say the area needs tourism money but also are hostile all because you can't get your rental in prime season for 1/3 the daily price... no regard for owner's position, companies are parasitic, wants to get a supper discount .... socialist seems to be the best fit. Other people work had and suffer but you don't have to and get mad if you don't get your way.
Damn this thread has really taken a side track from "crown land camping".
Yep.... I posted a link about the fact that cottages were now banned from renting and got a reply was quite hateful and insulting about hoping that the companies renting them out (and of course the cottage owners too) saying he wanted themQuote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
so I was rather pi**** at his lack of empathy and hostility.Quote:
getting it up the old wazoo.
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Anyway, the province put a kill on it too this summer it looks like... people and businesses not making money, maybe he will be happy.
https://cottagelife.com/realestate/r...=48055e2b2eppU
"On April 4, the Ontario government amended the Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act, banning short-term rentals during the COVID-19 pandemic. Specifically, the amendment states that “Every person who provides short term rentals in rental accommodations shall ensure that any rentals booked after April 4, 2020 are only provided to individuals who are in need of housing during the emergency period.”"
It deviated even further into his ignorant rant essential because someone was going to only give 1/3 discount when in reality he wanted to only PAY 1/3 of the daily rate when renting in prime season for a month and he was angry about it. Since I use rent it to help pay for repairs (never made a profit) and have neighbours that rent it out to and those neighbours consist of 70+ year olds and newly married with a kid that supplement their that way to I wasn't going to let his sh** stand unchallenged. I should know better, there are some so closed minded you can't get past their irrational and it isn't worth paying attention to them, I'll remember him for next time. Sorry. I won't answer on this thread again.
P.S.
Just opened my mail, got a letter from the Municipality, fines are upto $100,000 for an individual and go up!
Bye.
Please! give it up and allow others to get this thread back on track.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
Where the heck are the mods????
All in isolation [emoji6][emoji1787][emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
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OK, try to follow this and I'll keep it as simple as possible.
With some little variation prime time rental time rates are the same as in the off season in every property I looked. Only difference is they get booked quicker in prime time. Not much change in price with the exception of long weekends. Got that???
I'm cheap because I won't rent at $130 per night if when I rent for the month I get it at a reduced rate? I don't negotiate the price. The owner does that. Got that??? Do you ever shop in bulk or is that analogy over your head?
I have no idea when they last upped their rates. Probably every few years or so. How would I know. I got the same rate for 3 years running in Corpus. What's that got to do with anything???
Accommodations and sizes of units are all different. Rates vary depending on size of unit. The unit rate stays the same no matter the no. of guests booked. And your point is what????
In Corpus some of the units in the complex are private and their rent stayed the same. The ones operated by the condo or whatever they're called, their rents skyrocketed when VRBO moved in.
I found out about the place from my neighbor.
Palm Bay Resorts on south Padre Island is where we used to stay. Look it up yourself.
So I'm cheap because I don't pay $300 per night? I don't pay $300 per night because I can't afford it. But I can get great accommodations on some prime fishing lakes for anywhere from $1000 to $2000 per month. I should pay them more so I don't appear cheap to you? Yeah, OK.
Definition of parasite: A person or company, in this case who uses others to obtain an advantage without doing anything in exchange. The very definition of VRBO. All they do is put a picture and your info (whichI you have to provide)on a website. The owners should pay that, not me. You have a place to rent? Give a kid $50 to put it up on a website for you.
Here's a few more points you should try to understand, again I'll keep it simple. Tourism is the industry in the gulf states. Rents are cheap and camp owners are most competitive. So I'm cheap in your eyes because I won't pay $3 or 4 thousand a month for a VRBO listed rental. Why should I when the going rate is anywhere from $1000 to max $2000 for a private rental.
That's it! Don't pester me any further with this. I can't blame the others for getting ticked off.
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It's truly amazing how quickly people fold under pressure...